It's only keeping them protected until they start claiming other systems to expand, at which point they can hopefully defend themselves, or have at least found some allies to help them.
PLEASE NOTE: this isn't the complete customfaction.xml file!
With the way development is going, it's no longer going to be just a survival, it's going to be more focused on the world creation and interacting with other players/factions, similar to EVE, which is why it's valid to use examples from EVE to implement these sort of features. And I'm not suggesting war-game either, again, this is simply for the sake of opening up war, which has been one of the most prominent things in Starmade history. In a living world, there will always be war, and with invulnerability, then a faction can store all of it's ships at a mega shipyard, thus negating the war entirely, they'll lose a few stations, but keep everything else. With invulnerability gone, then it'll remove the reason to store everything at one base and never lose it, thus allowing war to actually happen.
This system may not seem perfect to you, but this is the best I can come up with, and so far, nobodies proposed any better systems, only saying no because they want invulnerability, or that it already exists. If there are any better systems to do this, then for the love of god, put them here so we can improve it, and make it a system that everyone can agree on. I'd rather not have to deal with "How about no?" and having to repeat myself.
How about, when a new player joins a server, they get 24 hours of active time protection. So, after 24 hours of them being online (It can be over whatever time period, doesn't have to be consecutive), then they can be attacked, but until then, they are immortal to all other players. I actually quite like that. :p
For me it comes down to either making the base game more restrictive/ intense or just letting it have the capacity to become more restrictive/ intense by what is available to you on how you can change the server's files.
Considering there a lot of numbers involved with this, it would be stupid to not have config settings for this. :p
Depends on the server. While Illusive was the biggest server regarding forumside factions, it had the effect, that a forumside faction, that didn't play there, was likely unnoticed/ignored. Illusive allowed PvP, with no PvE zones. Assume you are in control of a PvE faction, that wishes to get noticed at that time, what would you do?
It still will be, you'll just have to ensure that you make it safe overnight. Having it permanent is massively detrimental, if you try to go to war with someone, they'll be able to dock ALL of their ships to their homebase, which'll most likely be the only station they have, meaning you cannot attack them, whatsoever. There's no reason to undock your stuff from the homebase, because it'll never die if docked, thus making trying to go to war pointless, as you'll never be able to kill anything.
We're not talking about a fight, we're talking about a war, which'll most likely begin before any engagement, meaning that by the time you even get to them, they'll already be all docked up.
Same with docking up to the homebase.
This is living proof, said by you, that losing your base didn't stop you, and in fact made you strive to try again,
You persisted to see how their tactics fared, this is the most definitive proof that the majority of players will not rage-quit.
That'll be the same with this, it wont be an out of the blue thin, where all of a sudden your base is obliterated, and you were never told it could happen, you would be told within the tutorial, or with the helper tooltips, so you know of the risk, and you know that you should proceed with caution, and actually prepare to not get your anal cavities filled. :p
Again thats no problem they won't stay there foreever. And it's up to them not you or me how much they allow you to kill "undock".
No i quit they first deleted my faction not my stuff. I could remake it and have Home Base protection before losing my stuff.
I did not persist after losing my stuff i quit because there was no longer a point to keep playing.
But that's you flying around, killing anyone you find, not declaring war on them. There's a difference between a war, and killing some guy on your way to your local donut shop. :p
But they will. That's the problem. If there is a prominent threat (By prominent, I mean another faction who wants to explicitly kill them) then they'll stay there until the war is declared over. IIRC, this exact thing has happened before, but someone correct me on that if I'm wrong. :p
Oh, welp...
Once more stuff is added in, then there'll much more of a reason to keep playing. ATM, the game doesn't have nearly as many of the features that'll be coming later on, which'll provide a continuous reason to play, even after losing all your stuff. Either that, or you're part of the <1%. :p
You guys are still looking at things through the lens of the current meta. The future gameplay is going to be about larger, partially AI controlled fleets defending a wide number of your own stations outside the HB.
