Don't get frustrated, because unless you have some insider knowledge, you actually don't know how the devs intend them to work. It may very well be they're just toying with one system, and a few values have snuck in that aren't relevant at all to them, but cause you to perceive everything else as broken.
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I'd do that, but then I don't get to tinker with the new systems and actually learn how to use them effectively until they come out. And I'd grow bored buiding just shells and other stuff that's not affected by the changes, while worrying about them not being suitable for use in the new system.
1mill e/s power comes out to 10k reactor/stabilizer blocks each(1:1 ratio), if you want full efficiency (meaning 100% stable reactor with 100% effectiveness on stabilizers). Depending how you setup your stabilizers, it may end up being even larger than that (the 420m figure is in astraight line), so if you put like 5k stabilizers in one end of the ship and 5k in the other, with the reactor in the middle, you may end up with a ship that's a minimum of 840m long.420 m
I'm dead
May I ask how many reactor/stabilizor blocks that was:? 1 mill BETTER be a lot of power...
As if my computer struggled enough with my 300m long ships :,(
I guess we are just ment to build the ship, then create a block of stabilizors floating a few hundred meters behind:?
*Fantastic design Devs*!!
You can of course tinker with the new systems, but don't expect to learn how to use them effectively until they come out, until they have come out. Don't even expect to carry over the designs you build in one of the dev builds to carry over to the next dev build, and much less so to an actual release.
I don't expect them to carry over at all, that's why I build just quick test builds that are easier to tinker with when stuff changes. I don't spawn my actual ships in the dev builds at all, just because the quick testers are easier to modify and play with in the dev builds.
That's an assumption. Miners were always over powered, considering that the economy has been broken for so long. The salvagers now seem inline with the rest of the weapons, making resource harvesting a more time consuming affair where you have to create logistics.
Uhm, sure, I guess, but making resource harvesting "a more time consuming affair" just makes more people want to quit the game. If they make unloaded fleet mining or passive resource generation a thing, manual mining as a "Tier 1" can become grindier, but right now it's all we've got, so unless they want their playerbase to drop below a reasonable testing base size (it already has, but that's partially due to people waiting for the update) it'd be wise not to nerf mining even further until other alternatives are implemented.
Do logic controled boards still work (if the issue is increased cost per output)?
That was enough to do the job, One smaller reactor for just cruising and scanners, one smaller reactor for Jump, and one larger one to handle combat maneuvering and weapon/shield draw under fire. That's what it took to power what was in it from before the power update builds. this thing doesnt have a crapton of weapons, mostly popgun turrets, with one real beam system. How are we to make a ship without turning it into a space needle at the current values? Just to power the crap vessel, i'd probably have to bump it up to close to 500M from @250.
Which dev build will you do it for? Keep in mind the values may change again tomorrow.
Yes, the minimum length you could have is 1m: all reactor blocks on an x-y plane, and all stabilisers on the same plane.
I hope so XD 500M for a 10k block reactor seems insane, unless reactor power is 10 times more effcient.
That's a good point about the reactor as a percentage of ship mass. I think it should be pretty large too.
Well, I think they're over doing it, cause I can't power a crap ship with what we have currently. I think maybe they should go the other way and have a max distance that stabilizers can be from the reactor, just makes more sense to me. Or eliminate the space requirements. I don't like ship shape being dictated to me, and it really favors long ships. Coming to the idea that if I have to make all my ships long and drawn out to be viable, maybe we should skip the power update and try something else.
More accurate to say you can't meet your own expectations for what a ship will look like? You can always add more power...
Or wide ships or tall ships or spherical ships - the separation doesn't have to be on the length axis, nor just a single axis.
I think maybe the parameter values in the recent dev build (may not be the case anymore) were a bit extreme, but I think the concept is excellent.
I've found myself slowly coming around to their idea.
