and don't forget to swallow
This is true, and changes to thrusters and some other values have had more impact on 'freeing up space' than stabilizers and loss of XYZ-threads per se.
There were issues with the 2mil power cap perhaps, and/or aux function, (personally, above the cap I considered a ship getting a bit too big anyway) - Chambers add variety and function to big reactors- But Stabilizers are a poor way to facilitate Massive ships, ie by making power easier and no cap. Other Solutions Were Possible and Better.
Mass MUST be the Fundamental criteria for comparison (unless we want a dumb card-trading game with a bit of lego stuck on)
There are numerous ways to implement many interesting block- and geometry-rules ; Stabilizer mechanic (even with simple block-touching rule) is a good reference to compare with XYZ, but is really poor as a main mechanic.
Stabilizers are exactly that - just block spam in the nose of a ship, and undoubtedly the worst aspect of the update :/
I know i can be annoying with that but being able to translate a big update before it's release will help a lot non english communities.
And what if we don't want a giant ring around our ship because it screws with the aesthetics? Or want decent docking clearance from all sides? Or because that just makes no sense? I'm sure there will be plenty of ships with floating stabilizer solutions like this, but there's no good reason why this kind of thing should be necessary.
Then find your own solution to stabilizers. For example, instead of a long stick make a triangle akin to a Star Destroyer, reactor in the front stabilizers in both rear sides. There are plenty of ways to design a ship in the new system, it's just easier to complain about it than put thought into it.
I really loved to put interior and still beat the crap out of people with my ships using interiors as baffled armor. Too bad someone else decided for me that my ships should have interiors or be efficient.
I believe they have hull's stats now. To be confirmed though.
Let's put everything that is valuable and should be protected in the front.
I've been doing that for awhile now. We used to only have one power block, one shield block, and two different weapons. Every time one of those systems was updated and changed, it was easier to just remove everything and redesign. This is the nature of a game in Alpha, things change. Until Beta, you shouldn't expect your ship designs to always carry over forever.
Meh. I'm happy to gut everything and start fresh if a new system is an improvement. Even if not, this being alpha I fully expect to have to do that. I have several issues with this system, but that is not one of them.
Many RPers are also PVPers. The difference is we care about how the ships look. (i.e. we don't build dumbbells or spaghetti)
This ring will blow up the moment even one of its blocks is hit. And it will do it pretty spectacularly. Because it has no integrity. Good luck eating up to 50k damage in multiple spots around your ring. At current settings you must have at least 2x2 strands for them not to blow up after receiving a scratch.
Yeah, rings look cool, but they aren't practical in this meta. It'd be great if our meta actually promoted that sort of thing, but nope. Dumbbell, fat spaghetti, or go home.This ring will blow up the moment even one of its blocks is hit. And it will do it pretty spectacularly. Because it has no integrity. Good luck eating up to 50k damage in multiple spots around your ring. At current settings you must have at least 2x2 strands for them not to blow up after receiving a scratch.
Like this. Spaghetti got a little fatter.
Additionally ring designs will have double the dimensions of stick like ships or eat the mass penalty for lesser stabilizer distance. Armouring them too will be pretty costly due to high surface area.
You can sort of "turn them off" in configs. Reduce the minimum distance to zero.
