Nope. A clock for you.It is good that you removed it because the disagree rating only rated a post negatively, instead of people actually saying what is wrong with it.
Also remove the like and agree rating.The problem has been fixed, after months of testing I have come to the conclusion that the disagree rating does not have a place on our forum.
A shame you can't disagree with this post... :p
I think "Invalid Argument" is not that negative.Maybe we need an "Invalid Argument" rating rather than "Disagree".
And a "Please use Formatting / Punctuation and remember translate.google.com" rather than just "Bad Spelling".
Agreed, honestly. If you can agree, you should be able to disagree. Honestly, I still stand by my original opinion. 4x4 grid.Nope. A clock for you.
Reason? I think this is like primary school. Did you have an awesome, good or OK day? No miss, I had a SHIT day and I want a box that says at least 'bad'. Kind of like how we can now only have green pens and can't put crosses because it can hurt little Timmy's fee fees.
Clocks, ticks and rainbows will now be used until someone removes them too. Then we'll find a way because everyone on the internet are dicks. I want the right to be a dick dammit!
Searching for 'unhappy clock' brings some interesting pictures...
Agree --- Disagree
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Like --- Dislike
It's something they figure out with timeIs there a "key" anywhere explaining to "new members" for instance that optimistic doesn't = hopefulness or a strong belief in the success of such...instead it reflects a negative attitude towards another?
Okay then. I could have simply hit "disagree" on this buuuuut...Ignore it, report it, or even better, actually reply to the message explaining your disagreement.
Thank you, ten thousand times over. If someone's not mature enough to handle being disagreed with, they should be banned preemptively just for that... We don't want those kinds of people on our forum, or (gods forbid) in the game itself. Removing the Disagree button does nothing but pander to those people, the little five-year-olds and sheltered kids that know nothing about how people are and how the world works... And a few people who will now create massive spammy meme/GIANT RED ALL CAPS RAGE TEXT!1!!1!! posts to say that they disagree instead of clicking a simple button.Okay then. I could have simply hit "disagree" on this buuuuut...
So, I disagree with this, because I have to make posts now explaining why I disagree with stuff, instead of being able to just simply hit "disagree" and be done. There, that's my explanation.
Honestly, if you're going do something as ridiculous as making the rating system completely one-sided, we might as well not have a rating system at all. What is the purpose of the rating system? Obviously, it is to reflect how people feel about a person's specific post. What if the ratings don't allow for an accurate view of how people feel of that post? They have then voided their usefulness and have no purpose to exist. They can't reflect an accurate view of how people feel about an issue/post/thread when all opposition and disagreement is silenced and censored for the sake of "preventing inflammatory posts" or "because thuh negativity" other bullcrap reasons. Fighting happens on forums anyway.
In fact, removing the disagree rating may lead to an increase of negative posts toward people, because since they can't simply just say "you're wrong" or "you're an idiot" with a disagree rating, they instead have to go to the trouble of making an entire post so their voice is heard.
I'm sure we've all had moments where someone was saying something that was so stupid, you just didn't want to argue with them and be brought down to their level, but instead wanted the simple convenience of letting everyone know you think they're wrong.
Likewise, having the disagree rating also gives people an incentive to be nicer to other people, because they certainly don't want to have negative ratings! People that tend to be jerks on the forum would get more negative ratings, and given they're a legitimate forumer and not a troll, they would be compelled to behave better and make posts in tune with the general consensus in order to boost their positive ratings.
So yeah, tl;dr an accurate all-around rating system with both agree and disagree options allows for great incentives for people to post quality content rather than crap.
This isn't a baby daycare center. You can't turn this place into some retarded "lets be nice to everyone!!!" fantasy forum just by taking away a disagree rating. There will and must be negativity on this forum, whether or not anyone likes it. It's a fact of the internet. Like Toyota said, there needs to be negativity and arguing on this forum, and anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional about the very nature of humanity.
This isn't North Korea, where everything publicly said has to be according to how it pleases the great leader. This is the free and open Internet. And we should be able to say and rate however we dang well please.
Also, since you are a forum mod and I have no intention of getting banned for flaming or something like that, let me make it clear my frustrations are not with you personally, Duke, but with what you have done with the rating system lately. My intention here is not to insult you but to show why the choices you have made are not the best in this matter. I would greatly appreciate it if you reinstated the disagree rating. Or if not, just get rid of the rating system entirely.
DISAGREEThe problem has been fixed, after months of testing I have come to the conclusion that the disagree rating does not have a place on our forum.
A shame you can't disagree with this post... :p
Haha, yeah... no... Now the ratings will just stop being accurate...Apparently I have 2 clocks now.
How and where did I get them >_>
Anyway, internet arguments, I'm not saying it's a good or bad thing but the removal of the disagree rating will at the very least cause people who disagree to actually say something about it instead of just giving a clock or a rainbow... right?
Oh who the fuck am I kidding
See now, they wanted the WHOLE rating system gone (from what I can tell), what we have now without the disagree rating is a system that tries to keep anyone's feelings from getting hurt. Getting your feelings hurt should be expected of the internet, you should be able to handle that if you are on a forum.A few months ago, we had plenty of users wanting the rating system gone, now we have users wanting parts of it back that were shunned in the beginning.
pretty much this. I still want the whole damn thing gone. But if you're going to force it down my throat I have no choice but to use it.See now, they wanted the WHOLE rating system gone (from what I can tell), what we have now without the disagree rating is a system that tries to keep anyone's feelings from getting hurt. Getting your feelings hurt should be expected of the internet, you should be able to handle that if you are on a forum.
I can respect having to make a tough call. But don't pussy out and play the "poor, pitiful me~!" card whenever you get called out on it.The problem has been fixed, after months of testing I have come to the conclusion that the disagree rating does not have a place on our forum.
It sounds more like what "the schine team" wants is different from what the community wants. We - or perhaps rather I and a substantial group of other forumers - know what we generally want just fine. Either have the rating system for its intended purpose, or don't have it at all. It's very simple.Laugh all you want, send as many rainbows as you can, but the community doesn't know what it wants. A few months ago, we had plenty of users wanting the rating system gone, now we have users wanting parts of it back that were shunned in the beginning.
Hit me with your best shot, I've received it all.
No, I was wanting to make sure you understood that this decision was chosen because of others reactions, not my own opinion.pretty much this. I still want the whole damn thing gone. But if you're going to force it down my throat I have no choice but to use it.
What i DON'T want is to be forced into a friendly carebear circle jerk.
Plus, don't try to shrug blame off of yourself when RIGHT HERE you say that it's your decision.
I can respect having to make a tough call. But don't pussy out and play the "poor, pitiful me~!" card whenever you get called out on it.
That's not true either, individual members (of Schine) have voiced their concerns/disagreement with the system to me, and I take what they say heavily. Schine has no official involvement with the moderation/administration of this forum. Except in the case of a period such as now, when the forum administrator is no longer (temporarily) able to administer the forums. Which does leave the administration to me, until either I can train administrators or wait for the forum head to return.It sounds more like what "the schine team" wants is different from what the community wants.