it's more about Vaygr always boasting about how they've never lost a battle and all that.
I would like to see TNT's proof they have a better win/loss ratio than us
Heres a rough list of every war Vaygr has fought and are currently involved in
The DFN-Vaygr War: Vaygr won a decisive victory after destroying everything DFN owned, including their fleet.
The Thryn-Vaygr War: Thryn disbanded
The Children of Karensky-Vaygr war: CoK disbanded after their only hope of defeating us was destroyed by a vessel little over half its size
The Elwyn Infinity Conquest: Server got shut down so the results are inconclusive
The OAS-Odium War: Battle of Duc was the only thing that occurred in that war and Vaygr won without taking a single loss, although some may say this war is still being fought
The NFD-Vaygr War: NFD disbanded, although some may argue they still exist in the form of TNT, however disbanded is defined as "to end an organization or group (such as a club)", NFD ended, it no longer exists.
The TNT-Vaygr War: Is still being fought, neither side has backed down
The Furon-Vaygr War: Furon's homebase was destroyed, and spawned back in by admins who then made the sector protected to nobody could touch it, one of the reasons we left the server.
Every Single War Vaygr has fought has either been victorious, is still being fought, or the results were inconclusive.