The turret thread

[Jack Caos]

And suddenly an IDEA for the Phaserbanks apeared to my mind, have t try that later and let you know the outcome.

Basic idea is:
if yopu have a startrek ship with a perfect circular soucersection the phaserbanks on the soucer section are alingned on a imaginary circla around the center axis of the saucer section.
so pivot the Y Axis of the in the middel of the ship. between the docker at this point and the actual phaser bank you dont have to put blocks.
then at the place where the phaserbank is located at the hull make a long hole.
locate the X-Axis Pivot inside this long hole.
put the beam blocks below and then you have a "Turret" "moving" inside the phaserbank, which will be the most possible resemblance of the actuall phaserbank behavior

 

[hzzzln]

It's significantly easier for us to see if you link an imgur image through the add image button. :p

On a side note nice turret.

...But it's not an imgur image. I uploaded it as an attachment directly to the post. And I want it to be a small thumbnail because the original resolution might clutter up the screen for people with resolutions south of full HD. But thanks for the nice comment

 

[Blaza612]

...But it's not an imgur image. I uploaded it as an attachment directly to the post. And I want it to be a small thumbnail because the original resolution might clutter up the screen for people with resolutions south of full HD. But thanks for the nice comment

I know it's not an imgur image, that's why I suggested making it an imgur image and linking it, much easier/enjoyable for the majority of people.

 

[Valck]

I know it's not an imgur image, that's why I suggested making it an imgur image and linking it, much easier/enjoyable for the majority of people.

Sorry for off topic, but could you please speak for yourself, thank you.
It is just as easy to click the thumbnail for a full-sized image, and requires less effort to upload than to a third party. I may not be "the majority", but I for one am perfectly fine with the attachment.

 

[Blaza612]

Sorry for off topic, but could you please speak for yourself, thank you.
It is just as easy to click the thumbnail for a full-sized image, and requires less effort to upload than to a third party. I may not be "the majority", but I for one am perfectly fine with the attachment.

But with and imgur image, no clicking is required. Imgur is designed to use images, it handles them better than SMD, thus they load quicker, and are easier to upload. That's also why I said majority, rather than minority. :P

 

[GaeasSon]

And suddenly an IDEA for the Phaserbanks apeared to my mind, have t try that later and let you know the outcome.

Basic idea is:
if yopu have a startrek ship with a perfect circular soucersection the phaserbanks on the soucer section are alingned on a imaginary circla around the center axis of the saucer section.
so pivot the Y Axis of the in the middel of the ship. between the docker at this point and the actual phaser bank you dont have to put blocks.
then at the place where the phaserbank is located at the hull make a long hole.
locate the X-Axis Pivot inside this long hole.
put the beam blocks below and then you have a "Turret" "moving" inside the phaserbank, which will be the most possible resemblance of the actuall phaserbank behavior

It's a great idea. I've tried it, and it works beautifully. The damnable hitch is that it models the behavior of a TNG phaser strip, not the little micro-turrets of the TOS and Movie eras. So the ships that have lots of circular cross-sections, don't use that kind of phaser. And the ships that DO use phaser strips have damnably few circular cross sections.

 

[Keptick]

It's a great idea. I've tried it, and it works beautifully. The damnable hitch is that it models the behavior of a TNG phaser strip, not the little micro-turrets of the TOS and Movie eras. So the ships that have lots of circular cross-sections, don't use that kind of phaser. And the ships that DO use phaser strips have damnably few circular cross sections.

There's also the fact that the amount of weapons you can have on them is really really small, unless you want to sacrifice internal ship space and firing angles.
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Sorry for off topic, but could you please speak for yourself, thank you.
It is just as easy to click the thumbnail for a full-sized image, and requires less effort to upload than to a third party. I may not be "the majority", but I for one am perfectly fine with the attachment.

It's a fuckton more enjoyable for the people READING the posts. 90% of the time I don't even click SMD uploaded images because it's a pain and doesn't work well at all on mobile. I suspect that most people do the same.

 

[Ithirahad]

As someone for whom Imgur is firewalled in some locations, I'm thankful for the SMD-hosted images.

 

[Blaza612]

As someone for whom Imgur is firewalled in some locations, I'm thankful for the SMD-hosted images.

When you say firewalled in some locations, are you referring to the Great Firewall of China?

 

[hzzzln]

An attempt to bring the whole image embedding discussion to an end: You can upload a picture to the SMD with the "Upload a File" button, but instead of directly embedding it with the "Thumbnail" or "Full Image" buttons in the attachments section of your post, you can then just click on the picture, copy the URL and embed it with the "Image" button at the top. I did it for this post (you can check the URL of the picture, not an imgur pic). This way you have the better image embedding without uploading it to an external hoster.

 

[Drumboy168]

When you say firewalled in some locations, are you referring to the Great Firewall of China?

More like the great firewall of public schools...

 

[Ithirahad]

When you say firewalled in some locations, are you referring to the Great Firewall of China?

School internet. Seems they're mostly worried about people looking at porn in school or something, IDK.

 

[Keptick]

An attempt to bring the whole image embedding discussion to an end: You can upload a picture to the SMD with the "Upload a File" button, but instead of directly embedding it with the "Thumbnail" or "Full Image" buttons in the attachments section of your post, you can then just click on the picture, copy the URL and embed it with the "Image" button at the top. I did it for this post (you can check the URL of the picture, not an imgur pic). This way you have the better image embedding without uploading it to an external hoster.

Yea that's perfect ^_^

 

[Jack Caos]

It's a great idea. I've tried it, and it works beautifully. The damnable hitch is that it models the behavior of a TNG phaser strip, not the little micro-turrets of the TOS and Movie eras. So the ships that have lots of circular cross-sections, don't use that kind of phaser. And the ships that DO use phaser strips have damnably few circular cross sections.

as long as the stripe is not straight but somehow bend and the center point of the circle made out of the imaginary bend is Inside the ship it works.

more of a problem is a strip which is perfect straight. or the phaserstripe ontop of the galaxy class ( enterprise D) which is a ellipse

 

[GaeasSon]

as long as the stripe is not straight but somehow bend and the center point of the circle made out of the imaginary bend is Inside the ship it works.

more of a problem is a strip which is perfect straight. or the phaserstripe ontop of the galaxy class ( enterprise D) which is a ellipse

What you COULD do there (...I suppose... with a bit of fudging) is to do the narrow sides of the ellipse as two partially covered circles, then do the broad front arc as a quarter circle hinged from near the back of the disk. Then sort of fill in the gaps with a berm of brown phaser-strip colored hull running between the points where each one submerges into the hull. If any of that makes sense.

 

[Sven_The_Slayer]

Been working on some turrets recently

Spoiler: New Turrets

I'm really happy with how the joint on the artillery turned out and they can fire almost 90 degrees up. The back end still needs work though.

 

[Jack Caos]

What you COULD do there (...I suppose... with a bit of fudging) is to do the narrow sides of the ellipse as two partially covered circles, then do the broad front arc as a quarter circle hinged from near the back of the disk. Then sort of fill in the gaps with a berm of brown phaser-strip colored hull running between the points where each one submerges into the hull. If any of that makes sense.

I need to play starmade right now :D Have the Plans for the Sabre-Class. maybe I will start building and testing your idea. want to help?

now to the little phaserturrets on the TOS-TMP Ships.
I have the Plans for the MIRANDA Class and looked deep into them and did a little thinkering.
A)most Federation Starships are Science vessels not combat vessels. that could also mean that the phaser turrets may not be that strong as they are more of a defensive system (PDS) or for draining the enemy shields.

B) these turrets are damn little. even in the inside of the ship they are not that big. but they are many
the miranda has 12 of these 6 ontop and 6 on the bottom of the saucer section. and they have a 360x180 like rotation. you have at any point at least 6 turrets firing at you.

some addition to A and B:

the miranda is, in the description, some kind of a warship. but not the phaserturrets are what making it a Warship but the 4 Megaphasers ( 2 front 2 back) plus the bigscaled Torpedo Launcher.

 

[Sven_The_Slayer]

I've finally gathered all my turrets into a single location so I can easier work on new ones, refit old ones and know which turret is the most up to date

I still have a lot of designs in need of love and a few here still need a few tweaks. I can now fly ships here and window shop for turrets, paint and re-hull as necessary.

 

[HerrColonel]

Me and a friend worked today on one of my WIP capital ship. The turret design we ended with is quite interesting so I'm posting it here.

Spoiler: More !

interior of "horns"

These are small but packs quite a punch thanks to overdrive slave. Weapon main size: 145 (cannons) effect size: 145 (overdrive)
DPS: 8k7 each

 

[Chckn Wildstyle]

Here are the turrets CFW is fielding on its pirates and trading guild ships (Pirate: Black), (Trading Guild: Grey).