Actually, I just left them in the Enjin because I can't seem to open the admin panel when I'm on my phone.
Aye, I believe, although i have no sway in any of the TE's decisions (or not a major amount of sway), that the DFN should assist in dealing with him, and if not, then it should be assumed that he is still working for the DFN, and then it must be dealt with accordingly.
Last I checked, Incap wasn't the leader of TE, Nauvran was. I never said he was a 16 yr old son, I said the situation equated to that set of real life events. I never said he used DFN equipment to attack TE, or anyone, hell at this point that wouldn't mean much since I have been handing out the entire DFN fleet for weeks to anyone who asked. including several members of your allies Lazarus (though not 1 person wanted their ships, for a faction whose roots were in ship building I find it funny). as for flying the DFN flag, well the whole point of a black op, or proxy war is to not do that, plausible deniability and all that. as for not being under any orders, we have no proof and proof would likely never be found even if it did exist, all we have is your word, which carries little weight because it is apparently supported by no action.Now, there's the problem, Ridik. Unnamed is not some 16 year old son of the DFN, rather he is the 30 year old one that left in the middle of the night to start his own life. He did not use DFN equipment when attacking the TE, he did not fly the DFN flag during these attacks, and was most certainly not under any of our orders when doing so. The issue was settled between Incap and me two days ago, and as far as I'm concerned whatever is left is between the TE and Star-fleet. We have no part in it.
As I have stated before, we are pulling back from combat for the time being. You guys have a problem, handle it yourselves.
I guess you could say the same about me. In fact, I was more inflammatory towards you and the DFN than Ridik was. Hell, he was damn reasonable compared to the demand for an explaination I was making. And he already left, so it's like you're now texting him to tell him to not text you anymore. It's silly. He said his bit and he left without further incident. Don't start attacking him just because he carries a point that doesn't agree with your own.ridik_ulass- I agree with Creeper here, however I'm going to be a bit more blunt.
Leave our thread, or I'm reporting you for two counts of defamation, according to your allegations that we are incompetent and incapable. You're a hair from being banned, and having you gone would be just damn skippy.
That has nothing to do with Incap's last post, So I'm gonna assume you're spilling over your opinion from the PM "Agreements", which makes me wonder if you ever did reach one, or Incap just gave up talking to you u:Incap, I understand that you are sad your fleet got destroyed, but expecting an obscene amount of money from us because you got attacked by someone who left us is just unacceptable. If you had been a bit more polite and asked for some monetary help instead of demanding that we pay you for damages you sustained and that it's all our fault you were unprepared and blah blah blah
No.
If you want money, or any assistance at all, try again, and be polite about it.
So, let me understand this right. Due to your complete lack of administrative ability, we were under the impression that Unnamed was still a member of DFN and he was still on your members list at the time of the attack. Leading us to the impression that he may have been acting on your orders, so we of course, asked for an explanation and display of faith that you and the DFN were in no way involved. At first, we asked for military support (which we don't need lol) but then after you explained the DFN's new direction, we decided that monetary reparation would be more than adequate. So, we drummed up a bill based on what was lost and the fact you went and 'dun goofed' over who is and isn't in your faction. Others had stated that maybe you should because it would be more beneficial for you in the long run to appease us and the general opinion held by everyone else might actually improve because they'd see a faction prepared to take responsibility for their mistakes and failures to update their information.Incap, I understand that you are sad your fleet got destroyed, but expecting an obscene amount of money from us because you got attacked by someone who left us is just unacceptable. If you had been a bit more polite and asked for some monetary help instead of demanding that we pay you for damages you sustained and that it's all our fault you were unprepared and blah blah blah
No.
If you want money, or any assistance at all, try again, and be polite about it.
1. That was actually because of the administrative mess up that landed you in this mess to begin with.Incap, I would like to point out that 500mil credits alone were demanded because we didn't respond within five seconds.
Secondly, my questioning the losses you sustained proved correct. You 'estimated' the total damages were around 750mil total, with 66% of it being due to lost ships. When I asked for proof, I was met with a grand total of about 350 million credits for the ships you lost, without any actual documentation of said losses. When you responded to my questioning of the value of those ships' cargo, you said that 250 million, or a price far higher than that of the larger ship you lost, was reasonable, and that you 'trust your colleagues'. Photographic evidence of any actual losses the TE sustained provided by you is still nonexistant.
I also find it truly ironic that you criticize us for failing to do our job, when you alone are responsible for Unnamed's attack being successful, yet somehow it is all our fault.
Then you go on to complain about how Unnamed is still on the logs on our Enjin site, yet ignore the fact that we rarely, if ever, kick people from that site. The fact that Skullcollecter, Krosulhah, and kiwionthemoon are still there should provide evidence that we do not care who accesses our Enjin site, making it a poor gauge on whether or not a person is still a member of the faction.
And, if you do not need our money, then why are you demanding that we hand it over to you? Is it an ego problem? Do you absolutely have to have some sort of victory out of every situation? I was willing to pay half of what you demanded earlier, now I refuse to pay any of it, seeing as to how you apparently don't need it.