Starmade Logic Tutorials

[Crimson-Artist]

Has anyone designed a proximity sensor? you know a circuit that sends a signal that activates something as long as something remains in the input trigger area but deactivates the signal as soon as that something has left the input trigger area

 

[Criss]

Has anyone designed a proximity sensor? you know a circuit that sends a signal that activates something as long as something remains in the input trigger area but deactivates the signal as soon as that something has left the input trigger area

Wouldn't that just be the invisible detector block connected to an activation block? As soon as something is there it turns on.

 

[Crimson-Artist]

Wouldn't that just be the invisible detector block connected to an activation block? As soon as something is there it turns on.

yes but the problem is that it stays on until its triggered again.

I need a circuit that turns off automatically as soon as something leaves the trigger area.

Basically what i wana do is make a power supply station that activates power supply beams when a ship is within the trigger area and stays on until the ship has left the trigger area

 

[Criss]

yes but the problem is that it stays on until its triggered again.

I need a circuit that turns off automatically as soon as something leaves the trigger area.

Basically what i wana do is make a power supply station that activates power supply beams when a ship is within the trigger area and stays on until the ship has left the trigger area

Does the trigger block send a signal again once the object has left it? If so then the easiest thing would be to use a t-flip flop. It basically sends that signal and keeps it on as if it was a lever. Sending the signal again turns it off. There was a forum thread about it. If the trigger only activates once upon entry then I have no idea really.

 

[Bench]

It doesn't until you enter it again, so you'll need it to be hollow field with flip flop I think

 

[Crimson-Artist]

It doesn't until you enter it again, so you'll need it to be hollow field with flip flop I think

wouldn't a T flip flop be a little redundant? I mean this isn't redstone, logic in star made is either in the "on" state or the "off" state.

Besides what do you mean hollow field?

 

[Criss]

wouldn't a T flip flop be a little redundant? I mean this isn't redstone, logic in star made is either in the "on" state or the "off" state.

Besides what do you mean hollow field?

I would just design it so the signal is turned off when you leave. One trigger in the front, one at the end.

 

[Krazykat]

I would just design it so the signal is turned off when you leave. One trigger in the front, one at the end.

but then you cant go back out the way you came in without messing it up

 

[Bench]

If it was just at both ends then you could just use activation module as t flip flop but still might not be foolproof

Problem is with how area triggers work at the moment

 

[Crimson-Artist]

So your saying that until we get a Pulse input (think pressure plates in Minecraft) block, what i want is extremely hard to pull off.

Maybe Schema can get on making a trigger area and step on variant that does this. would solve a hellova lot of problems

 

[Criss]

So your saying that until we get a Pulse input (think pressure plates in Minecraft) block, what i want is extremely hard to pull off.

Maybe Schema can get on making a trigger area and step on variant that does this. would solve a hellova lot of problems

Basically the trigger is already acting as flip flop. Really the trigger should just give out a single pulse, as we can incorporate a flip flop with the other logic blocks. Hopefully logic will overall just be expanded to incorporate these functions in the blocks themselves.

 

[NeonSturm]

Simple RAM, see

Related Discussions and Projects:

1. http://starmadedock.net/threads/pro...ter-updated-with-ram-module-todo-upload.2920/
2. http://starmadedock.net/threads/rp-what-if-we-would-have-security-and-crew-fully-customizable.2953/

Related Community Content:

1. http://starmadedock.net/content/logic-palette_ram_-_neonsturm.1317/

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Spoiler: 2x2x2 Permanent Flip-Flop

Rear (where the magic happens)

O1 N1
O0 N0​

Front (where you control the magic)

W1 R1
W0 R0​

O = or
N = not
W+R =and
W = write
R = read
1 = high state
0 = low state


Connections: (A --slaves-> B)

Write-And -> Or ( behind Write-And )
Not -> Read-And ( in front of Not )
high Or -> low Not -> low Or
low Or -> high Not -> high Or

Why does somebody need anything else?


But if you do need something else, here is a timed Flip-Flop:

1. Input 0 = enable set
2. Input 1 = set
3. and1( Input 0, Input 1 ) -> delay0 -> delay1 ... delayN
4. and1 AND delay(all of them) -> AND (gives a 1 after some time. Immediately returns to 0, good for an abort time on mechanisms triggered by multiple inputs.)
5. and1 AND delay(all of them) -> OR (returns to 0 after some time. Immediately gives a 1)

.I > v
II > A > D > D > D
.. . v . v . v . v
.. . > > > X < < <

>v<^ = signal flow
I = Input 1
II = Input 2
. = space holders
A = AND block
D = Delay Block
X = Output = OR (for 4.) or AND (for 5.)​

 

[Bench]

@NeonSturm you really need to find a better way at explaining what you're trying to explain. All I see is a wall of text.

 

[jayman38]

I think we really need the area sensor block (the invisible block that only shows up when in build mode) to be a proximity-sensor-type of activation that sends an activation signal only as long as someone is touching the area blocks, instead of a one-time on/off switch. I initially used the area blocks in my space station contest entry, expecting them to work that way. Imagine my disappointment when they were strictly a on/off switch. I was a sad puppy.

If you change the area effect to proximity, then I think you can replicate the current on/off functionality with logic (once the circuit is turned on, it can be made to stay active), so you would lose nothing, but gain better area effect logic.

 

[Saber]

So your saying that until we get a Pulse input (think pressure plates in Minecraft) block, what i want is extremely hard to pull off.

Maybe Schema can get on making a trigger area and step on variant that does this. would solve a hellova lot of problems

So I know virtually nothing about logic so this is only an idea, not even a theory really. But I wonder if (in the future if this isn't currently possible) you would be able to hook up a NOT to the area trigger, then when there isn't anything it will switch an activator to one state, but when there is something it switches it to another state.

It would (in my mind) basically give area trigger's an active, and inactive state. Based on whether or not something is occupying that space.

Like I said I don't know anything about the systems, I'm happy just getting doors to open and close properly at this point, but that seems like something that would logically be possible, if nothing else than at least to implement in the future.

 

[Qweesdy]

Can this topic be made sticky (until the wiki is up)?

Thanks!

 

[Bench]

 

[Saber]

Thanks again for the help with this Bench =) Looking forward to getting a ton of logic in the Lionheart, so needless to say I'll be checking out the rest of your tutorials as well. haha

 

[jstenholt]

Awesome. I have no idea what this actually does, but it looks like it has a shit load of applications.

 

[Saber]

Basically it allows you to activate something while deactivating any others which might be activated. So if you have several lights you want to activate, but only want one on at a time you can use this system. So rather than activating a light, then deactivating it so you can activate the other one you only have to activate the next light, the previous one will turn off when the next one turns on.