Fragmented graphics, This was working before

[Mike the Reaper 86]

I've got the same exact problem with this update. The framerate is much better but the graphics are unbearably buggy. The game is unplayable.

Graphics card: ATI Radeon HD 5450

I'm very leery about updating the graphics driver. Ordinarily it's a good idea, but the last time I did it my entire operating system started acting... flaky. Had to use system restore just to get the computer back to a usable state.

*One update later*

Well that just traded one problem for another. Flickering chunks are gone, but now there's a new glitch with distant objects. "Tearing" is the only way I can visually describe it. Looks like the blocks in the distance are doing the wave.

This exact same thing happened to Starmade the last time I tried to update my graphics driver. At least my operating system hasn't imploded in on itself ...yet.

EDIT:
Never mind. My operating system became unresponsive minutes later and I had to use system restore. AMD's getting a very angry call from me first thing tomorrow.

 

[MossyStone48]

I'm at the point on one machine I can update to 14.14. Just to see if it's an issue with the newer driver.

 

[BDLS]

Not sure how related this is to the issues you guys are seeing, but here's a .gif of what I see with the new update (this and chunks disappearing):

AMD Phenom II X4 955
Radeon 7870

 

[psteiner]

I used to have that on an old computer too.

Here:

And here more prominently:

It was rectified when I got a new computer, but I still have the old one, and it still has those problems...

However, no, you aren't experiencing the same problem. We are seeing graphics loading at completely random consistency, why you are only missing pieces in "lines" which move when you change your position from the mass. Not to say that it isn't a legitimate problem, just that you should look for another thread. Did this only start happening after the update?

_______________________________

Perhaps you have the same problem as Mike the Reaper (post above)

 

[MossyStone48]

It seems this is affecting AMD and ATI users. My intel and nvidia test machines are not having this issue at all. These are different different symptoms with a related cause.

 

[SuperWookie]

Having the same issues. Using an AMD Radeon HD 7570. This is what I'm seeing:

 

[SmilingDemon]

OK ! I found something

Problem looks like this, and the intensity changes while moving around.

Please check that Setting - > Show Advanced Settings "Use Frame Buffer" is set to ON
or Toggle "F_FRAME_BUFFER_USE" in the Settings.cfg to true

Please reply if that solves the problem

 

[MossyStone48]

You nailed it. Retesting on a Vanilla config file.
Aaaaaand: Yup. That's it.

Spoiler: Before

Spoiler: After

Confirmed working. Use Frame Buffer in Advance Settings must be set to ON.

 

[Mike the Reaper 86]

Not sure how related this is to the issues you guys are seeing, but here's a .gif of what I see with the new update (this and chunks disappearing):

AMD Phenom II X4 955
Radeon 7870

Yep, that is precisely what happened to me when I updated to the latest graphic driver. My operating system also became partially unresponsive but that's on AMD, not Starmade. I'll see if the frame buffer setting SmilingDemon suggested will work with my ancient (but stable) video driver.

...Nope.
Looks like that setting will only help with newer drivers. Like the one I can't have. Going to make that angry phone call to AMD now.

 

[BDLS]

OK ! I found something

View attachment 9550 Problem looks like this, and the intensity changes while moving around.

Please check that Setting - > Show Advanced Settings "Use Frame Buffer" is set to ON
or Toggle "F_FRAME_BUFFER_USE" in the Settings.cfg to true

Please reply if that solves the problem

Did the trick for me, thanks!

 

[Cab121]

No love for me in that option.

 

[psteiner]

Nope, Here's a gif:

Spoiler: Settings

C_USE_NEW_PLAYER_MODEL_ = true
CONTROL_HELP = false
C_MOUSE_BUTTOM_SWITCH = false
G_RESOLUTION = 1024 x 768
G_FULLSCREEN = true
G_VSYNCH = false
G_FOV = 35.0
G_MAX_SEGEMENTSDRAWN = 500
G_DRAW_SURROUNDING_GALAXIES_IN_MAP = false
D_LIFETIME_NORM = 30
G_WINDOWED_BORDERLESS = false
S_SOUND_SYSTEM_ENABLED = false
S_SOUND_ENABLED = false
S_SOUND_VOLUME_GLOBAL = 4
N_TRANSMIT_RAW_DEBUG_POSITIONS = false
C_SELECTED_JOYSTICK = -1
ICON_BAKERY_BLOCKSTYLE_ROTATE_DEG = -90
MOUSE_WHEEL_SENSIBILITY = 7.0E-4
BUILD_MODE_SHIFT_SPEED = 25.0
ORBITAL_CAM_SPEED = 0.5
G_DAMAGE_DISPLAY = 600
G_STAR_COUNT = 0
G_VBO_BULKMODE = true
G_VBO_BULKMODE_SIZE = 4
G_DRAW_FOG = false
G_DRAW_BEAMS = true
G_DRAW_EXHAUST_PLUMS = true
D_INFO_CONTROLMANAGER = false
D_INFO_SHADER = true
T_ENABLE_TEXTURE_BAKER = false
D_INFO_DRAW_TIMES = false
D_INFO_DRAW_SPACE_PARTICLE = false
G_SPACE_PARTICLE = true
G_DRAW_MOUSE_COLLISION = false
G_ATMOSPHERE_SHADER = normal
G_SHADOW_QUALITY = BEST
G_DRAW_SHIELDS = false
G_DRAW_WATER = true
G_DRAW_BACKGOUND = true
G_WATER_USER_MIPMAPS = false
E_NAVIGATION_FILTER = 869
G_DRAW_ENTITIES = true
G_FRUSTUM_CULLTING = true
G_DRAW_EFFECTS = true
G_SHADER_RELOAD = false
G_FRAMRATE_FIXED = -1
G_SHADERS_ACTIVE = true
G_DEBUG_DRAW_GRID = false
G_DEBUG_DRAW_LINES = true
F_FRAME_BUFFER_USE = true
T_TERRAIN_DRAW = true
T_TERRAIN_WIREFRAME_DRAW = false
G_CULLING_ACTIVE = true
G_TEXTURE_ARRAYS = false
G_AUTO_NORMALIZATION = true
G_DRAW_BY_SIDES = true
G_WIREFRAMED = false
G_NORMAL_MAPPING = false
G_TEXTURE_COMPRESSION = true
G_TEXTURE_ARRAY_COMPRESSION = true
G_TEXTURE_ARRAY_MIPMAP = true
G_TEXTURE_MIPMAP = true
G_SHADOWS = false
G_SHADOWS_VSM = false
S_PAUSED = false
S_SETTINGS_SHOW = false
MINIMAP_MODE = SMALL
SECTOR_INDICATION_MODE = INDICATION_ONLY
S_KEY_ALLOW_DUPLICATES = true
G_PROD_BG = false
G_PROD_BG_QUALITY = 2048
G_TEXTURE_PACK = Default
GIF_WIDTH = 640
GIF_HEIGHT = 640
GIF_FPS = 15
GIF_GUI = false
G_DEBRIS_THRESHOLD_MS = 4
G_TEXTURE_PACK_RESOLUTION = 128
S_INITIAL_SETTING = Single Player
S_GAME_MODE = Sandbox
G_BONE_ANIMATION = true
P_NT_DEBUG_ACTIVE = false
P_PHYSICS_DEBUG_ACTIVE_OCCLUSION = false
P_PHYSICS_DEBUG_ACTIVE = false
P_PHYSICS_DEBUG_MODE = 0
G_DEUBG_LINE_DRAWING_ACTIVATED = false
G_WINDOW_START_POSITION = center
G_DRAW_GUI_ACTIVE = true
G_DRAW_NO_OVERLAYS = false
G_PARTICLE_SORTING = true
P_PHYSICS_ACTIVATED = true
G_SMOKE_QUALITY = false
G_DRAW_STARS = false
G_DRAW_PASTE_PREVIEW = true
G_USE_SPRITE_VBO = true
S_TUTORIAL = false
G_AUTOSELECT_CONTROLLERS = true
S_INFO_DRAW = FPS_AND_PING
G_VBO_FLAG = STATIC
N_LAG_COMPENSATION = true
N_IGNORE_SAVED_UPLINK_CREDENTIALS_IN_SINGLEPLAYER = true
N_SERVER_TIME_UPDATE_FREQUENCE = 2000
M_TEXTURE_PACK_CONFIG_TOOL = ./data/textures/block/Default/64/
G_MULTI_SAMPLE = 0
M_MOUSE_SENSITIVITY = 0.5
G_HIT_INDICATION_SIZE = 1.0
F_BLOOM = false
F_BLOOM_INTENSITY = 0.4
S_MOUSE_LOCK = true
G_DRAW_ADV_BUILDMODE_BLOCK_PREVIEW = true
G_DRAW_ALL_CONNECTIONS = false
G_SHOW_PURE_NUMBERS_FOR_SHIELD_AND_POWER = false
S_ZOOM_MOUSEWHEEL = SLOTS
S_MOUSE_SHIP_INVERT = false
S_MOUSE_ALL_INVERT = false
S_USE_REGION_SIGNATURE_TEST = false
G_PREVIEW_TO_BUILD_BLOCK_TEST = false
S_EXIT_ON_ESC = false
G_USE_HIGH_QUALITY_ACKGROUND = false
G_DRAW_POPUPS = true
G_USE_VBO_MAP = true
G_DRAW_JUMP_OVERLAY = true
G_MAG_FILTER_LINEAR_BLOCKS = false
G_MAG_FILTER_LINEAR_GUI = false
G_MAX_BEAMS = 1024
SEGMENT_REQUEST_BATCH = 32
CLIENT_BUFFER_SIZE = 65536
ICON_BAKERY_SINGLE_RESOLUTION = 150
G_RAYTRACE_COUNT = 64
ICON_BAKERY_SINGLE_ICONS = false
G_MUST_CONFIRM_DETACHEMENT_AT_SPEED = 50.0
G_USE_SHADER4 = true
O_OCULUS_RENDERING = false
G_USE_VERTEX_LIGHTING_ONLY = false
CLIENT_TRAFFIC_CLASS = true
G_DRAW_SELECTED_BLOCK_WOBBLE = true
G_USE_TWO_COMPENENT_SHADER = false
A_FORCE_AUTHENTICATION_METHOD = -1
MIN_FFA = 2
B_UNDO_REDO_MAX = 30
N_ARTIFICIAL_DELAY = 0
SEGMENT_PIECE_QUEUE_SINGLEPLAYER = 32767
G_MAX_MISSILE_TRAILS = 128
G_USE_OCCLUSION_CULLING = false
C_AUTOASSIGN_WEAPON_SLOTS = true
G_DRAW_NT_STATS_OVERLAY = false
CLIENT_CUSTOM_TEXTURE_PATH = ./customBlockTextures
SECRET = none
USE_OPEN_AL_SOUND = true
LIMIT_FPS_UNFOCUS = true
GUI_USE_DISPLAY_LISTS = false

[DOUBLEPOST=1425435720,1425434882][/DOUBLEPOST]Pressed f9, this happened (it worked briefly)

Spoiler: Settings

C_USE_NEW_PLAYER_MODEL_ = true
CONTROL_HELP = false
C_MOUSE_BUTTOM_SWITCH = false
G_RESOLUTION = 800 x 600
G_FULLSCREEN = false
G_VSYNCH = false
G_FOV = 35.0
G_MAX_SEGEMENTSDRAWN = 500
G_DRAW_SURROUNDING_GALAXIES_IN_MAP = false
D_LIFETIME_NORM = 30
G_WINDOWED_BORDERLESS = false
S_SOUND_SYSTEM_ENABLED = false
S_SOUND_ENABLED = false
S_SOUND_VOLUME_GLOBAL = 4
N_TRANSMIT_RAW_DEBUG_POSITIONS = false
C_SELECTED_JOYSTICK = -1
ICON_BAKERY_BLOCKSTYLE_ROTATE_DEG = -90.0
MOUSE_WHEEL_SENSIBILITY = 7.0E-4
BUILD_MODE_SHIFT_SPEED = 25.0
ORBITAL_CAM_SPEED = 0.5
G_DAMAGE_DISPLAY = 600
G_STAR_COUNT = 0
G_VBO_BULKMODE = true
G_VBO_BULKMODE_SIZE = 4
G_DRAW_FOG = false
G_DRAW_BEAMS = true
G_DRAW_EXHAUST_PLUMS = true
D_INFO_CONTROLMANAGER = false
D_INFO_SHADER = true
T_ENABLE_TEXTURE_BAKER = false
D_INFO_DRAW_TIMES = false
D_INFO_DRAW_SPACE_PARTICLE = false
G_SPACE_PARTICLE = true
G_DRAW_MOUSE_COLLISION = false
G_ATMOSPHERE_SHADER = normal
G_SHADOW_QUALITY = BEST
G_DRAW_SHIELDS = false
G_DRAW_WATER = true
G_DRAW_BACKGOUND = true
G_WATER_USER_MIPMAPS = false
E_NAVIGATION_FILTER = 869
G_DRAW_ENTITIES = true
G_FRUSTUM_CULLTING = true
G_DRAW_EFFECTS = true
G_SHADER_RELOAD = false
G_FRAMRATE_FIXED = -1
G_SHADERS_ACTIVE = true
G_DEBUG_DRAW_GRID = false
G_DEBUG_DRAW_LINES = true
F_FRAME_BUFFER_USE = true
T_TERRAIN_DRAW = true
T_TERRAIN_WIREFRAME_DRAW = false
G_CULLING_ACTIVE = true
G_TEXTURE_ARRAYS = false
G_AUTO_NORMALIZATION = true
G_DRAW_BY_SIDES = true
G_WIREFRAMED = false
G_NORMAL_MAPPING = false
G_TEXTURE_COMPRESSION = true
G_TEXTURE_ARRAY_COMPRESSION = true
G_TEXTURE_ARRAY_MIPMAP = true
G_TEXTURE_MIPMAP = true
G_SHADOWS = false
G_SHADOWS_VSM = false
S_PAUSED = false
S_SETTINGS_SHOW = false
MINIMAP_MODE = SMALL
SECTOR_INDICATION_MODE = INDICATION_ONLY
S_KEY_ALLOW_DUPLICATES = true
G_PROD_BG = false
G_PROD_BG_QUALITY = 2048
G_TEXTURE_PACK = Default
GIF_WIDTH = 640
GIF_HEIGHT = 640
GIF_FPS = 15
GIF_GUI = false
G_DEBRIS_THRESHOLD_MS = 4
G_TEXTURE_PACK_RESOLUTION = 128
S_INITIAL_SETTING = Single Player
S_GAME_MODE = Sandbox
G_BONE_ANIMATION = true
P_NT_DEBUG_ACTIVE = false
P_PHYSICS_DEBUG_ACTIVE_OCCLUSION = false
P_PHYSICS_DEBUG_ACTIVE = false
P_PHYSICS_DEBUG_MODE = 0
G_DEUBG_LINE_DRAWING_ACTIVATED = false
G_WINDOW_START_POSITION = center
G_DRAW_GUI_ACTIVE = true
G_DRAW_NO_OVERLAYS = false
G_PARTICLE_SORTING = true
P_PHYSICS_ACTIVATED = true
G_SMOKE_QUALITY = false
G_DRAW_STARS = false
G_DRAW_PASTE_PREVIEW = true
G_USE_SPRITE_VBO = true
S_TUTORIAL = false
G_AUTOSELECT_CONTROLLERS = true
S_INFO_DRAW = FPS_AND_PING
G_VBO_FLAG = STATIC
N_LAG_COMPENSATION = true
N_IGNORE_SAVED_UPLINK_CREDENTIALS_IN_SINGLEPLAYER = true
N_SERVER_TIME_UPDATE_FREQUENCE = 2000
M_TEXTURE_PACK_CONFIG_TOOL = ./data/textures/block/Default/64/
G_MULTI_SAMPLE = 0
M_MOUSE_SENSITIVITY = 0.5
G_HIT_INDICATION_SIZE = 1.0
F_BLOOM = false
F_BLOOM_INTENSITY = 0.4
S_MOUSE_LOCK = true
G_DRAW_ADV_BUILDMODE_BLOCK_PREVIEW = true
G_DRAW_ALL_CONNECTIONS = false
G_SHOW_PURE_NUMBERS_FOR_SHIELD_AND_POWER = false
S_ZOOM_MOUSEWHEEL = SLOTS
S_MOUSE_SHIP_INVERT = false
S_MOUSE_ALL_INVERT = false
S_USE_REGION_SIGNATURE_TEST = false
G_PREVIEW_TO_BUILD_BLOCK_TEST = false
S_EXIT_ON_ESC = false
G_USE_HIGH_QUALITY_ACKGROUND = false
G_DRAW_POPUPS = true
G_USE_VBO_MAP = true
G_DRAW_JUMP_OVERLAY = true
G_MAG_FILTER_LINEAR_BLOCKS = false
G_MAG_FILTER_LINEAR_GUI = false
G_MAX_BEAMS = 1024
SEGMENT_REQUEST_BATCH = 32
CLIENT_BUFFER_SIZE = 65536
ICON_BAKERY_SINGLE_RESOLUTION = 150
G_RAYTRACE_COUNT = 64
ICON_BAKERY_SINGLE_ICONS = false
G_MUST_CONFIRM_DETACHEMENT_AT_SPEED = 50.0
G_USE_SHADER4 = true
O_OCULUS_RENDERING = false
G_USE_VERTEX_LIGHTING_ONLY = false
CLIENT_TRAFFIC_CLASS = true
G_DRAW_SELECTED_BLOCK_WOBBLE = true
G_USE_TWO_COMPENENT_SHADER = false
A_FORCE_AUTHENTICATION_METHOD = -1
MIN_FFA = 2
B_UNDO_REDO_MAX = 30
N_ARTIFICIAL_DELAY = 0
SEGMENT_PIECE_QUEUE_SINGLEPLAYER = 32767
G_MAX_MISSILE_TRAILS = 128
G_USE_OCCLUSION_CULLING = false
C_AUTOASSIGN_WEAPON_SLOTS = true
G_DRAW_NT_STATS_OVERLAY = false
CLIENT_CUSTOM_TEXTURE_PATH = ./customBlockTextures
SECRET = none
USE_OPEN_AL_SOUND = true
LIMIT_FPS_UNFOCUS = true
GUI_USE_DISPLAY_LISTS = false

 

[Mike the Reaper 86]

Mine is finally working, I had to completely uninstall and reinstall my graphics driver. Give that a try if all else fails.

Hopefully it holds this time and my computer doesn't melt on reboot or something.

 

[Harbinger_OF_Cthulhu]

GUYS! http://starmadedock.net/threads/for-all-amd-radeon-users-read-this.6184/

 

[schema]

Thanks you guys for all the help and feedback on this issue.

there graphical glitches were the reason the hotfix for the misplaced textures was delayed. I think I have fixes for some or all of the errors in the latest dev build. I need some testing though to make sure.

There is one open GL call I'm not sure ATI likes very much, but before I disable that call and use a slower one, I want to make sure it is still broken on the latest dev (especially the chunks not being drawn at distance), because it might very well be a shader issue I fixed.

Could you maybe check if those bugs still happen in the latest dev build. There is also an option in the ingame graphics options to turn off MultiDraw, which is what I suspect is causing the missing chunks at distance (but it could be the shaders as said)

 

[SmilingDemon]

OK using R9 280X and Catalyst 14.12 Driver suite i cant see any of the mentionend problems ... but i also couldnt see them before in .18999
putting Use Frame Buffer to off causes problems imidiatly

 

[schema]

OK using R9 280X and Catalyst 14.12 Driver suite i cant see any of the mentionend problems ... but i also couldnt see them before in .18999
putting Use Frame Buffer to off causes problems imidiatly
View attachment 9568

So, FBO off still causes problems in the latest dev? Also, if yes, does the option to turn off multiDraw do anything with FBO off?

 

[Lancake]

In case you don't know how to use the dev builds:

• Go to your launcher, press the "options" button, select "installation settings".

• Put the "build branch" on DEV and select OK.

After that it's just like a normal update, search for newest version, download it and play

Also, make a new world just in case, DEV builds are known to be funky. This one shouldn't cause any problems but you never know for sure.

 

[SmilingDemon]

Catalyst 14.12 on R9280X in SM V .189994
Frame Buffer Off and GL_Multidraw on -> Problem
http://prntscr.com/6cngqs
Frame Buffer Off and GL_Multidraw off -> Problem
http://prntscr.com/6cniba
Frame Buffer on and GL_Multidraw off -> Pretty Stuff
http://prntscr.com/6cnjqt
Frame Buffer on and GL_Multidraw on -> still Pretty Stuff
http://prntscr.com/6cnlb0



and this was a valid excuse to post 4 times screenshot of my ship :P

 

[schema]

Catalyst 14.12 on R9280X in SM V .189994
Frame Buffer Off and GL_Multidraw on -> Problem
http://prntscr.com/6cngqs
Frame Buffer Off and GL_Multidraw off -> Problem
http://prntscr.com/6cniba
Frame Buffer on and GL_Multidraw off -> Pretty Stuff
http://prntscr.com/6cnjqt
Frame Buffer on and GL_Multidraw on -> still Pretty Stuff
http://prntscr.com/6cnlb0



and this was a valid excuse to post 4 times screenshot of my ship :p

Thank you. that really helps a lot. Now I know that the option I though was causing it is not to blame