Every member in a faction costs 5 faction points, and every system gives 10, so for every two members in a faction you need one system to sustain them.
So NOW a solo faction setupis worthy. Okay, thats good.
Which person had that idea?Not only that, but for the mining bonuses, you get plenty if you mine in your own territory, but you get a higher bonus for mining in other peoples territories, so have fun with that
Drives the people more appart instead of bringing them together. If you like to encourage one man factions its ok though. Maybe have an eye on it and look if you like it that way.
Interesting concept.Not only that, but for the mining bonuses, you get plenty if you mine in your own territory, but you get a higher bonus for mining in other peoples territories, so have fun with that
Might be a good idea to nerf the neutral mining bonus back to vanilla - its far too easy to mine up somebody without even so much as a war declaration.Every member in a faction costs 5 faction points, and every system gives 10, so for every two members in a faction you need one system to sustain them.
Not only that, but for the mining bonuses, you get plenty if you mine in your own territory, but you get a higher bonus for mining in other peoples territories, so have fun with that
It's a somewhat new idea for the fp system, and it's one I've been curious about for a bit, try to set up some sort of survival requirements for large factions, and also make them easier to war against. The whole idea is that factions have an inherent advantage with more numbers, so we increase the maintenance per member, even if only by a bit. Hopefully this will result in more tension between factions and more active players.On the other hand people will allways make one man factions, and making it harder to have a bigger faction can actually make this challange very appealing. So I am looking foward to hear about how this fp system works out.
That's a very good point, but at the same time that will require double the amount of systems to maintain, if a faction has every player place an alt in the mining faction, thus making them even more vulnerable to attack, thus creating risk for their reward.
The only answer to this is to be ready to defend your own space from raids. We're trying to encourage more PvP between factions. While I would prefer to make the bonus apply to enemies, rather than any other faction, there's no way to actually do that in the configs, unfortunately.
You have to click on the role buttons, in the #roles channel, you'll see a bunch of reactions down the bottom. This is detailed in the #roles channel and the #info-rules channel
Then im sorry to say I think you have failed - why would anybody claim anything other than voidspace knowing other players will mine it up, meanwhile getting a better bonus for mining in some other players systems?
Let me add to this:
Yeah we're halving them now, will be fixed immediately
Didn't know this would actually be an exploit, we'll see if we can get rid of all the rails (don't want to do a map wipe so if they're still there then we can't fix that, but you should still be able to at least use the shop)
We can't actually change that unfortunately. There's nothing in the configs that allow us to actually set a penalty for losing territory, so death penalties are the only substitute
That's actually a really good idea. We won't increase it too much, but we'll definitely increase
Its been done before on other servers as ive pointed it out before there. usually adv shops have them left on as rare docking ports for explorers etc (as intended no doubt), just common shops dont (and of course, misuse of adv shop rails is then on aobvious no no).
Care to comment as to why mining bonuses in ALLIED territory are now 16x? you're inviting people who want to exploit the system as prior with neutral mining bonus.
Yes, we've heard that it's good. The people in the discord (our main communication platform as this one is limited) have confirmed that it's ultimately good. If people work in other ways to get extra resources they are free to do so. They however, haven't. We are happy with the mining bonuses, it has certainly favored the PvP focus we want.
We've done what we can to fix this. We haven't heard any other complains about this. We're not going to reset the world because people have already established themselves on the server and there's no better way to kill any sort of population than to force them to lose their progress.
How is a greater bonus in allied territory than your OWN good? It just leads to people making alliances to mine out somebody elses territory, then declare war.
Nobody expects you to reset the world, but you could delete those claims and make it clear such claims are an exploit to the player / playerbase.
It's quite simple. Player's establish such a system which ultimately will require more maintenance and care put into it. With the more required systems to claim the easier it is to quite frankly cripple their economy. Especially if they all go offline at the same time zones.
That's actually fair enough. I haven't had a chance to remove them due to being busy so apologies on my behalf, if you have the sector co-ords of the perpetrators I'll remove them ASAP (now)
Yes, I like the reverse FP system, thats not what this was about.
I'm sorry, but this does not quite address why you applied a higher bonus in other players allied territory. Are you trying to say to get full benefits, you need to be making alliances? This can be expolited in far too many ways. However, if other players want it so badly, i;m not going to continue to argue the point, but I may later return to say "I told you so"... perhaps even "you were right". Time will tell.
I privately messaged you them here on Saturday. Check your conversations and you'll find it. Cheers!
You can't make it for allied or enemy territory specifically. It's for every other faction territory...
