An Open Letter to the Odium Pact Refugees

[Lecic]

Perhaps you should not provoke people.

I will be sure to remind people "why" that happened.

Because Odium wanted to grief a build server? Jeez, with threats like that, you might as well just put "I am not a trustworthy member of the community." on your forehead with a stickynote.

 

[0Samuel0]

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[Jaaskinal]

Is that what the words on your icon say? I haven't checked yet

No, it's actually rather poetic :P

 

[dsgraves]

If you're a douche to us, we'll be one to you. That's been Vaygr policy from the beginning. As to Samuel's many comments on this thread, I wholeheartedly apologize on behalf of Odium for them. He does not speak for us.

 

[FlyingDebris]

No, it's actually rather poetic :p

fuck chechenya

 

[dsgraves]

fuck chechenya[/SIZE]

goddamn dude cool it

also im sry i dont know how forums work

 

[Lecic]

goddamn dude cool it

 

[dsgraves]

deep shit

 

[Mortiferum]

lol

+1

 

[max stripe]

Oh. I see.
So we have another example of a faction which is backed by admins opposing us?
I'm starting to see a pattern here...

yea im also starting to a see a pattern.... a pattern of people you are pissing off on everything thread.... listen stop posting all your forum shittalk... and we need a new PR guy

 

[0Samuel0]

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[max stripe]

Have you read the OP?
This apparently started a long time ago... I'm not the cause.

yes i read the op. also read all your flamish posts

 

[Mortiferum]

Can we please stop?

This shit is so insanely immature it isn't even funny anymore.

Nuclear, we acknowledge your kindness in offering a place for "refugees" to go.

Samuel, there is a time for everything. Now is the time for stopping.

Rest of the guys, disperse and stop feeding fuel to the flames.

 

[GNR News Network]

Admiral Bogatyr, member of the news department in GNR (Great Novgorod Republic) here. Can I just say that this is the biggest example of the worst 1% of what goes on on starmadedock that I have ever seen. 0Samuel0's comments are immature and lack conviction and yet why do all of you others lower yourself to his level? Everyone knows that he is in the wrong, even representatives of odium factions have said so earlier in this thread....If you see a person like him blatantly only here to flame with unreal authority making false accusations, exaggerating facts and offending people, why not just ignore him?

As Leanson has said in times past, and as I will say now, you are merely providing a bad image.
You started something, yes. But it has grown far beyond you, or any one person. And at some point we realized that we do not want you as our leader. I have plenty of respect for those CR members who act with respect towards their fellow man. But you have crossed lines. For some, it was banning a person from teamspeak for being autistic and then blaming it on a bug. For some, it was trying to ruin their image and spreading rumors to the leaders of other odium factions. For some, it was perhaps continually calling someone "kid" when you have no way of knowing their age, nor reason to care about it. Odium has an image of being bad people. Not just the Evil Empire, but being bad people. Where do you think that comes from? Not aceface. Not those veterans now in the Khanid Domain. Vaygr and AA may have had their own people to create that opinion, but we had you. And we a tired of being seen as bad people. So twoniner, you may have created the faction, you may have felt betrayed, but we do not want your input anymore.

You are not, and never will be welcome in the CR again.

When you get kicked from CR I will remember this

Look.
You do not play starmade anymore. And if it seems like we are not building cool ships, or having cool fights anymore, it is because every time we try to we must do something about the slander seen here. I personally would really love to get around to actually doing some cool things in the game, but every time I turn around someone is insulting the faction, insulting me, or posting blatant flamebait. So far, I have been trying very hard not to flame. Hopefully you will try to do the same.

Hint Hint no.1. Nowhere it starmadedock rules does it say you MUST still play starmade to be part of the community.
Hint Hint no. 2 (you are the harbinger of 80% of the flaming on this thread and you complain about slander?)

And you find it surprising considering Odium's track record? Mate, you joined the wrong faction/alliance.

Alllrighty, gentlemen and ladies, this thread went bad fast. A couple things, if you will:
1: Odium is in no way falling apart. We have record-high membership and lots of cool stuff, both going on and planned.
2: Samuel is a member of Odium who seems to be confused as to the purpose/meaning of Odium. For those who do not know,
"o·di·um
ˈōdēəm/
noun

1. general or widespread hatred or disgust directed toward someone as a result of their actions."

We are called Odium cuz we aren't exactly well-liked. We know that, we kinda like it. We're the bad guys, but at the end of the day we're a bunch of people who like having fun.
3: EH, as it currently stands, was never in Odium. The original Event Horizon was, but that aint what it is now.
Hope this cleared some stuff up, and please, disregard what samuel says. He's a cool guy, but not quite villainous enough for Odium standards yet. Have a pleasant day now!

0Samuel0 should just read point no.1 of this and be enlightened.

Look TwoNiner, I said what needed to be said. I'm sorry that it came to this, but I am not trying to deceive or defame. I was the one to say it only because it would hurt you too much coming from anyone else. I understand how you are reacting, and I don't blame you for looking to make me look bad. No one really has bad feelings towards you, they just don't want you in the faction anymore. I'm sorry that I had to be the bringer of bad news, but I hope that you can just accept this. None of us really dislike you as a person, but you have hurt too many people too many times. We can still accept you as a friend, but never again as a member or a leader. Please, just try to calm down?
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Why are you always saying this? It's not bedtime where I am.

You are not, and never will be welcome in the CR again.

'We can still accept you as a friend but You are not, and never will be welcome in the CR again.'
The logic there.....

You don't seem to be supporting either NO or CR, but instead some mythical version of the CR that never truly existed. Everyone likes to think that things long ago were better than what we have now. No doubt the old CR had many of the same problems as the new CR. Making it out to be some sort of sacred object to which the CR now is sacrilege is a fallacy so often found in so many. There is no such thing as the good 'ole days, because that is merely an image your mind makes. You forget the bad parts. There is Now, and there is Then. Now is not terrible because it is not Then, and Then is not good because it was before Now.

What are you talking about.....never existed...pah......

I spoke for CR, not Odium as a whole. You speak for Vaygr, not Odium as a whole. And quite frankly, some people are tired of vaygr believing itself to be Odium as a whole.

I think at the moment more people are tired of you.

Welp. Now I see what people meant by the good ole' days. Shame we can't act in such an... honorable manner anymore. Since you say we have gotten so much worse since then.

But you acknowledged our continued existence. So at least someone has come to their senses.

Spoiler: Good old days

Before May 19th 2015

Oh. I see.
So we have another example of a faction which is backed by admins opposing us?
I'm starting to see a pattern here...

Yeah, pattern is: everytime you have a diarrhea of shit coming out you make more enemies.

If you're a douche to us, we'll be one to you. That's been Vaygr policy from the beginning. As to Samuel's many comments on this thread, I wholeheartedly apologize on behalf of Odium for them. He does not speak for us.

Thank god. *Respect for odium goes up*

Conclusion. I agree with Mortifum's last comment.

Can we please stop?

This shit is so insanely immature it isn't even funny anymore.

Nuclear, we acknowledge your kindness in offering a place for "refugees" to go.

Samuel, there is a time for everything. Now is the time for stopping.

Rest of the guys, disperse and stop feeding fuel to the flames.

Second conclusion. read the link of the page (http://starmadedock.net/threads/an-open-letter-to-the-odium-pact-refugees.8299/page-8)
emphasis on 'an-open-letter-to-the-odium-pact-refugees.8299/page-8'....an open letter....not an open flaming contest. Let's leave the thread for it's creator.

 

[Nuclear Doughnut]

Since the topic of JoelBrisco was brought up. As part of the EE staff. I whole heardedly vouch to the accuracy of 20,o00 or so mobs.... and using noobs as slave mining labor killing such mobs.... It took me a month taking the server down an hour at a time to get rid of such a catastrophic amount of mobs

 

[CyberTao]

disperse

 

[Aynslei]

That cat knew exactly what it was doing, and the human doesn't even look surprised.

 

[0Samuel0]

Is there a way to report a whole thread? Because that is what I should have done upon seeing this. The intent was to troll, and I fed the trolls. I see now what an idiot I have been, and have continued to be, and likely will not stop being, trying to have a reasonable discussion. I should have got the message in the first place that the purpose of this post was to create a flame war, and I think I did, but did not abstain. The only purpose is a personal attack on a group of people. Why is it surprising that when we respond in a civil manner we encounter personal attacks against individuals? Why I continue to post here I cannot tell you. If I was a mod, I would just remove this whole thread and be done with it. What happened to this http://starmadedock.net/threads/announcement-no-more-forum-drama.4936/.? But I am not, and I see now that the hate will continue until some mod does the community the courtesy of banning us all, and deleting this thread. So go! Respond. Call me immature, call me whatever you like. It will be completely on topic. And I, bound by the feeble force that is my conscience, will try desperately not to respond in kind.

EDIT - figured it out, hopefully this will be resolved soon. There's RPing, and there are personal attacks. We've all crossed a line here.

 

[FlyingDebris]

If you haven't realized by now, you've been the one doing the flaming, the provoking, the attempted trolling. The rest of us, and including the rest of Odium, are discussing things in a civil manner. You, on the other hand, have simply shown up, given yourself a position of assumed power, and proceeded to try and start arguments.

 

[TwoNiner]

Is there a way to report a whole thread? Because that is what I should have done upon seeing this. The intent was to troll, and I fed the trolls. I see now what an idiot I have been, and have continued to be, and likely will not stop being, trying to have a reasonable discussion. I should have got the message in the first place that the purpose of this post was to create a flame war, and I think I did, but did not abstain. The only purpose is a personal attack on a group of people. Why is it surprising that when we respond in a civil manner we encounter personal attacks against individuals? Why I continue to post here I cannot tell you. If I was a mod, I would just remove this whole thread and be done with it. What happened to this ANNOUNCEMENT -- No more forum drama.? But I am not, and I see now that the hate will continue until some mod does the community the courtesy of banning us all, and deleting this thread. So go! Respond. Call me immature, call me whatever you like. It will be completely on topic. And I, bound by the feeble force that is my conscience, will try desperately not to respond in kind.

Soooo you publicly insult my integrity as a person, and now cry when the community shuns you for being a troll, and in turn call them trolls. You are also suggesting that they started the flame when it was actually started when YOU persisted to defame me publicly.

You asked earlier how I was able to tell you are a kid, well I can tell you that your lack of maturity and constant attempts to make yourself look like the victim kinda gave you off. You're like a Grade A taddle tale.

The best you can do now is own up to your mistakes and apologize, and never do this again.