The Sentinel Alliance's Public Server - All Welcome

[Calhoun]

the smart people are talking

where

 

[Jebediah1]

the smart people are talking

Smart people? In the TSA thread?
You high bro?

 

[Plisko]

Oooh I was mentioned heh. Yeah this "incurring wrath" bullshit is just a ploy by the admins.

Are you the one who was accused of playing a glitch filled, highly exploitable, barely balanced alpha game with a server on top of it. . . and telling people to pay your protection money or be killed? If I was running an alpha server like that, with PvP by consent only, and I heard you were doing that I would probably ban you for picking your nose too loudly if that's what it took. . . because it makes you Captain Super Cheeze and you deserve to be hit by the same flexible rules you follow. If you were breaking someone's ship at that time I was typing /ban. . . I would try to hurry up. I don't see a problem here.

Why am I still here? Because I hate lying, and that's basically what has happened.


But you want to know the real kicker? You aren't even on this server. You haven't even seen the things discussed in this thread. You say they can run the server as they want, and that is true. However, if they want to run it without hassle and without people, like me and whoever, calling them out then they should advertise it properly.

I don't see lying. I see how you could interpret the description incorrectly but it can also be interpreted to mean exactly what you are complaining about. PvP is on but that doesn't automatically mean open PvP. You can't just fly around and shoot whatever (commonly known as "randomly attacking"). Your definition of a derelict ship might not be correct under those rules. Building has an import restriction, that is the meaning of the description. AI may not be very good but it is still a vanilla setting so you have no case. In fact, it is probably the same easy setting people use in early single player to get up to speed with how stuff behaves. Vanilla also gives pirates access to any ship created by default. . including ships that have no weapons. I had some pirates come attack me in some turret bases I saved once. . .it was hilarious. . but still vanilla settings if you want to go hairsplitting. All of that is in the description as I read it. Your interpreting it in a certain absolute way for it to be anything close to deception. In my experience with people management, people kicked out of something for a weak reason have often been walking the line for too long and finally gave just enough of an excuse to use the rules to deal with them.

I'm not on the server. You got me there. I think my point is that I am someone who has grown to hate multiplayer because people always ruin it with hostile antics and shenanigans that cause amusement for them and frustration for me. I don't work for them so I don't see why my world should revolve around their idea of fun. I don't fight well. I just might get my ass kicked by pirates with salvage beams. . .let alone someone who loves combat in a doom cube. I'm actually OK with how I am. If I get better. . . eh. . . OK. . .if I never get better. . . eh . . . whatever. Maybe some day I will choose to get good. . . but I think I have a right to play the laid back style too. That is not a crime that should be punishable by constant harassment from people who love ganker combat and demand the server use hard settings. Why can't different groups like different settings? Aren't we all testers here? Shouldn't we be testing all variations of server settings? Is there really even a correct setting in an alpha test?

So, here is a server and it sounds like it wants to lean toward being more laid back. . . and there are a lot of people accused of antics and shenanigans who are now outside complaining. Call me crazy but, depending on their reputations elsewhere, that makes me feel better about the server not worse.



I don't know why you think you need to go on a crusade over a couple of people running a server. . . as if nobody can play the game anywhere else. . . but I guess you are passionate about it so all the power to you. I will certainly make a case when things bug me.

From what I have heard here so far the only thing I feel has real merit is the tweaks suggested for the AI. I particularly like the suggestion of progressively harder waves of pirates with bigger ships. I don't mind hard PvE. It's a good reason for people to work together.

 

[Az14el]

thats uhh, thats a pretty good rundown on why not to play here unironically (in light of that statement though you should definitely play here ironically and be as obnoxious and trollish as you can get away with however, just in my own humble opinion)

 

[Carnifex606]

thats uhh, thats a pretty good rundown on why not to play here unironically (in light of that statement though you should definitely play here ironically and be as obnoxious and trollish as you can get away with however, just in my own humble opinion)

Each to their own

 

[Chckn Wildstyle]

So, instead of bashing the server staff, I'm gonna be actually constructive here, and propose a server environment that's focused on PvE yet keeps challenging new players to actually learn to build efficient, learn which weapon/system combo works best for a certain purpose, and to cooperate:

- Enable blueprint uploads, but set a mass cap. Say, 50K, but 100K max for ships and 10x that (including docked) for stations.
I have seen servers that set up an automatic system that disabled any ship over the mass cap that didn't have a -1 faction ID (Pirate) until it had enough mass removed to fall below that threshold, where it became functioning again.
What this achieves: I never learned as much about building efficient or balancing function and form as on mass capped servers. It becomes a necessity, as you arrive at a point where you can't just throw in a couple thousand more blocks and win by sheer size difference. You gonna have to think about where and what to place, and balance out your build. This also keeps the server load relatively low, but the mass range has plenty of beautiful ships on the community content to browse, small enough to be relatively fun to fly, also large enough to allow full roleplay quality interiors, as well still offering the option to dock your fleet to your homebase or set up large, well defended bases that are big enough to be hard to siege so you're not forced to just sit at your invulnerable homebase.
Possible drawbacks: This would also allow veteran PvP players to upload their "broken OP" designs to the server. However, if you retain that PvP must be consensual, this can be managed.

- Deploy correctly set up pirate waves and amp up the AI accuracy. 6 easy (Isanths and similar ships under 500 mass), 3 medium (1K-3K size ships, up to 3-4 per wave maybe with some small fighters), and 1 epic wave (the last containing a single capital ship that's twice or more over the mass cap, and small fighter escort). This'll guarantee that there's only a 10% chance (at most) for the Big Bad to spawn so it will be a rare sight.
What this achieves: Not only does this make the PvE aspect of the game more challenging, but the unique pirate roster makes the server unique as well. We have seen enough of the defaults. Every single one of us. Especially that they haven't been updated since forever.
Also, the chance to drop the Big Bad will create more incentive to get better at building, learn to pilot better, and to cooperate with other players to take it down, as it cannot be beaten by sheer size. This'll boost player-to-player interaction OTHER than PvP, and also gives a source of useful blocks that is way more entertaining to obtain than asteroid and planet mining.
Possible drawbacks: Some careless players could run into the better pirates and die. It's part of the game. Man best learns from mistakes. A child won't believe that the pot on the stove is hot until their hand gets burnt by it. If they can't handle losing a ship, I recommend a build server instead of a survival one.

Not to poo on your idea, because it is a good one that I have had myself, but the pirate wave system has been broken since implementation. It being DOA is why the pirates never seem to work correctly on servers. It doesn't matter how many waves you add or how fine tuned you make them by having their difficulties tuned, they won't work. It randomly selects a Single pirate wave to spawn and never uses anything else. So if you were to have 100 scaling pirate waves based on mass, there would only ever be one single wave to spawn. I have asked Schine to fix this multiple times over the course of nearly two years, most of the responses have consisted of "That isn't important" or "We aren't going to work on something like that right now". It would be a wonderful thing if it actually worked, but it doesn't sadly.

 

[Matt_Bradock]

Not to poo on your idea, because it is a good one that I have had myself, but the pirate wave system has been broken since implementation. It being DOA is why the pirates never seem to work correctly on servers. It doesn't matter how many waves you add or how fine tuned you make them by having their difficulties tuned, they won't work. It randomly selects a Single pirate wave to spawn and never uses anything else. So if you were to have 100 scaling pirate waves based on mass, there would only ever be one single wave to spawn. I have asked Schine to fix this multiple times over the course of nearly two years, most of the responses have consisted of "That isn't important" or "We aren't going to work on something like that right now". It would be a wonderful thing if it actually worked, but it doesn't sadly.

Woe unto me, finally have a good idea and this time Schine poops on it. GG.

 

[kulbolen]

tsa pvp

 

[Ony126]

What's the deal with a few people trying to spoil others' stuff, like advising to be obnoxious, when they don't get their ways?

Thought you'd just ignore what you don't like, especially after the thread on how to improve PvP where you were very adamant about not forcing someone's playstyle on others...

 

[GDPR 302420]

What's the deal with a few people trying to spoil others' stuff, like advising to be obnoxious, when they don't get their ways?

Thought you'd just ignore what you don't like, especially after the thread on how to improve PvP where you were very adamant about not forcing someone's playstyle on others...

I don't know about everyone else here, but I will sometimes jab at TSA because

• It is counter-intuitive to disable blueprint uploads as a means to protect from griefing
• They fail to understand that "overpowered" is an entirely subjective term and there is no such thing as "overpowered ships" which I feel is a testemony to the TSA administration's lack of knoweldge about the game in spite of the owner claiming to have been here in 2013
• They have no PvE content, unless they have since changed it since I last logged on, NPC pirate ships did not even have weapons
• Several well known community members can testify against TSA for failing to be impartial when using administrator powers, such as when Veilith was in the mumble channel with admins who were saying "Ban him before he kills me!"
• There is a severe breach of trust between several well known community members and the TSA administration due to recent events

Got nothing to do with PvP my guy

 

[Jebediah1]

the server is cancerous, 70% of the experienced community is banned. Admins don't even know what they are doing, It's only fun for noobs for like 2 hours until you get bored of no PvP or PvE then you go to LvD.

 

[Sigiere]

This server is a joke. I started on this server. The starting galaxy was crowded so I went to a neighboring galaxy (4 hour flight time) and they kept revoking my system control. Anyhow, I have my own server now so problem solved.

 

[Ony126]

I don't know about everyone else here, but I will sometimes jab at TSA because

• It is counter-intuitive to disable blueprint uploads as a means to protect from griefing
• They fail to understand that "overpowered" is an entirely subjective term and there is no such thing as "overpowered ships" which I feel is a testemony to the TSA administration's lack of knoweldge about the game in spite of the owner claiming to have been here in 2013
• They have no PvE content, unless they have since changed it since I last logged on, NPC pirate ships did not even have weapons
• Several well known community members can testify against TSA for failing to be impartial when using administrator powers, such as when Veilith was in the mumble channel with admins who were saying "Ban him before he kills me!"
• There is a severe breach of trust between several well known community members and the TSA administration due to recent events

Got nothing to do with PvP my guy

No, I completely agree that the server is less than ideal and critics are useful, I'm calling out the few who come back and crap on it for the sake of crapping on it.

 

[Matt_Bradock]

Well, I still have hopes that the admins will actually get to their right minds and realise that the blueprints uploads help more than they do harm, but until then, I'm waiting... while playing somewhere else.

 

[Jebediah1]

No, I completely agree that the server is less than ideal and critics are useful, I'm calling out the few who come back and crap on it for the sake of crapping on it.

I just shitpost cus I can,

 

[Thingie]

Thread locked because of:
-Derailed
-Flaming
-Trolling