Never said it was hard to be objective because of hate.
Aaaaahhhh where was it...
Dread Syndicate Denounces Odium Pact
Dread Syndicate's leaders have decleared that Odium Pact is not to be trusted.
This is due to the pact's dishonorable conduct such as creating alts to spread flame wars and start sh*t with other factions.
As well as other things my attention hasn't been given too as of yet.
RedAlert is in fact Zer03 and due to the nature of the post and what it is intended for dread syndicate will be moving away from "Odium pact"
The post "Newbies Guide to Factions" is intended to promote Odium pact and make them look less bad then they really are.
A true post that helps Newbies to find factions was not the intention, If it was maybe their rep would indeed have gone UP when news broke this is an alt of Red Alert as to be fair most of the desc is correct apart from the glearing lack of info for all other factions BUT odium factions.
This is dishonorable conduct and truth above all else will prevail
I have nothing against being an asshole but if you are not man enough to put up with the result of your own actions then don't go slandering factions and hiding behind "NP" thread settings.
Our faction will not stand for dishonorable conduct. If you are not going to be mature about it we have no business with you
And on that bombshell I leave you proof of what I speak of.
Fight honorably stand until the end never because that is what you are remembered by when you are gone.
Where your proof is basically a video of someone baiting an Odium member into saying they made a relatively neutral thread, all things considered, for the purpose of having a description of factions that wasn't horribly biased against Odium. This you interpreted as saying that they were making a non-objective, pro-Odium page because of hate from other people. IE, you said that it could not be objective, because Odium is hated.
And that Odium is hated is obvious from what you have admitted, that sometimes when people from Odium post things other factions tend to start flame wars causing faction leaders to get banned, oddly only on the side that is evidently hated.
I said it is hard to remain objective about your own faction when you are the one who is the proof and there isn't much in terms of current info on dread syndicate on this forum atc.
Adding DS i feel would require me to back up my own statements and as of yet dread syndicate hasn't done much nor do we have a large faction post with a timeline atc.
Now, before we start typing angrily in response to what I just said, let's take a deep breath, wait a minute, and read the rest of what i have to say. I admit that the earlier piece is a mite bit inflammatory, but what it is response to is also a mite bit inflammatory, and it would be easy to spiral downward from there.
You see, the other part of your response was to create a nice, neutral, detailed, and altogether superior version of what RedAlert was trying to do, and so I think that you are far, far more respectable, and decent than many of the people on these forums. It's hard not to respect that.
Here's what I see reading through this page
As you talk about DS , it makes me start to feel that the denunciation quoted here is hypocritical, and that irks me. While you have certainly done a better job than RedAlert, and been far more honest about it, the circumstances you have given for your own post sound almost worse than those for RedAlert's post.
You've fallen into the trap I fell into on a certain other two threads. You've responded in a inflammatory manner to a post as a whole. Fine, straight denunciations are pretty much RP, anyway. Then you kept going in a not particularly flamey manner. But as you go, you say things that make your earlier denunciation seem more and more ridiculous. Pretty soon, people will start typing angrier and angrier comments, in response to your new, and not very inflammatory comments, because of the denunciation earlier.
What do I mean? Well, first you say that the v1 thread is biased because it is written by Odium, starmade's favorite group to hate. Then you say that your thread is hard to keep unbiased, because people hate your faction. At this point, one might start thinking this is a case of the pot calling the kettle black. And then, after someone comments to that effect, you respond, and let slip that you do not think you can prove what you might say. Ok, you are only talking about DS, but that's not what the already upset person you've denounced sees.
Now you have two choices to stop this. One, you could remove the denunciation. But let's be honest. You aren't going to do that. I wouldn't do that. No one would go and do that, otherwise they wouldn't have posted it in the first place.
The other one, which works, and isn't that hard to do, is to avoid the topic of yourself and your faction, or the denunciation on the forums for a little while, especially on the effected threads (this one, your faction page, and the page you denounced). I'm not saying don't stop posting altogether; People said that to me, and of course I didn't listen.
They way you have conducted yourself in this thread gives me a decent amount of respect for you. Please don't ruin it by falling into the trap that has cause people to dislike me.
