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    Edymnion

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    done here this is pointless wasting my time trying to talk on here have a nice day thanks for being like every other fucking game company and ruining yet another game i enjoyed playing btw i rarely play on multiplayer servers but when i do i have never not `1 damn time the whole time i played this game had 1 single problem in taking out a cloaked ship.
    You're right, it is pointless because pretty much no one agrees with you. Sorry to be blunt, but its the truth. Stealth as it was was horribly unbalanced, and there were macros out there that made it impossible to to decloak one (because the exact instant it decloaked you, the macro simply re-activated the cloak).

    The scanner is *SUPPOSED* to knock you out of being cloaked, thats the entire reason it exists. Its also manually activated, and can't be tied to a logic pulse, meaning a human has to sit there and spam it for it to do any good. And if they already know there's a cloaked ship in the area, then why exactly should cloaking countermeasures not work?

    But yeah, honestly, the entire system needs to be pulled and revamped.
     

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    As far as I know power supply beams weren't changed. I did notice a lag increase from them though...
     
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    I would not mind seeing cloaking use energy based on the ship's overall "score" wherein ships with a lot of weapons, armor, and shields could not easily cloak, while ships willing to give up most of that could cloak at any size. With the ship score system coming, I don't see how this would be impractical.
     
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    I would not mind seeing cloaking use energy based on the ship's overall "score" wherein ships with a lot of weapons, armor, and shields could not easily cloak, while ships willing to give up most of that could cloak at any size. With the ship score system coming, I don't see how this would be impractical.

    As a joke, I have a generator with no weapons score 6k+ Offensive score.

    Will not trust it/10
     
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    found me another game to play that hasn't nerfed stealth or limited my ability to design builds adding a cd is fine but the extreme way it was done on this game is plain wrong.on top of that they have now limited the size of ships that players can stealth that put large amounts of time and effort to create. doing 1 or the other is fine doing both is a kick in the teeth to hard working stealth builders.and on top of that we still can't build a decent looking stealth ship it's the same flying reactor garbage or just no systems and it looks good.i'll keep an eye maybe they will fix this garbage until such a time i won't be wasting anymore time on builds.
     
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    found me another game to play that hasn't nerfed stealth or limited my ability to design builds adding a cd is fine but the extreme way it was done on this game is plain wrong.on top of that they have now limited the size of ships that players can stealth that put large amounts of time and effort to create. doing 1 or the other is fine doing both is a kick in the teeth to hard working stealth builders.and on top of that we still can't build a decent looking stealth ship it's the same flying reactor garbage or just no systems and it looks good.i'll keep an eye maybe they will fix this garbage until such a time i won't be wasting anymore time on builds.
    Looks at "Atlas Armament" 's fully hulled stealth Cruiser.

    Laughs at you.
    [DOUBLEPOST=1438746350,1438746240][/DOUBLEPOST]I used this in a mock fight. It shoots, cloaks, jams, jumps and it is shielded. I WILL BE BLUNT, do not BLAME YOUR LACK OF EFFORT and INCOMPETENCE on Schema who worked to get a game we all enjoy.

     
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    well well well after seeing that i decided to go ahead and check what the trade off is for decoration.using nothing but the .01 mass items these give no armor or hp values.after just decorating the outside of my ship. I installed my systems interestingly enough i lost 4k dps i also lost 1/2 of my thrusters.in addition to this i lost 1k of my alrdy small amount of shielding and 1/2 of my jump drive modules. I wasn't able to even install my overdrive setup wich only gave a 13.4% bonus.losing all of this for decoration is stupid it's not even armor or adds any kind of bonus. in addition to this i now have an 8 sec cd on my ability to cloak. i can no longer make a bigger cloaked ship to take out the smaller pirate ships i used to be able to take out with the vessel i just decorated with no decoration.and u have the balls to say thats balance.u r out of your mind i suggest u seek attention for your insanity asap. you have yourself a nice day because enough of u cried to the point they have given u free rain to kill any cloaker out there gj now go cry on another game and ruin it's mechanics to extremes too plz.
     
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    Ahh, no.

    If you expect a cloaker to go toe on toe with a normal ship, you are the one with issues.

    You are trying to get a cloaking ship, which is already hyper specialised to be armored and a powerful killing ship? Are you kidding me?

    A good comparison would be cloaker vs submarines.

    They lack armor, fill a specialised role, aren't fast. Sure, a cloaker can be "bigger", how big do you need to make a submarine in order to hunt a Frigate? Wait, they tried it, it doesn't work!!

    Use them as what they are.

    Recon
    Assassination
    Killing Targets of opportunity

    Not as some sort of Warp in, Warp out titan.

    PS: You chose to run overdrive in a cloaker, hilarious. And yeah, the ship I used (in that image), is perfectly capable of fighting provided you are not incompetent. Instead, why don't you avoid sustained fights, fire a strike and leave? Or is it too hard for you to comprehend?

    Quit whining.
     
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    What I find most interesting is that he is only making one post. :eek:
    It was his eleventh post (I think) which he announced he is leaving the game. o_O
    Now he's up to 12. :confused:

    This is the the second funniest thread I have read in a long time. The funniest is here. And both of them within days of each other. This is turning out to be quite a month and there's still 26 days to go. I can't wait to see what happens next! I mean seriously, you can't pay for this kind of entertainment. :D
     
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    What I find most interesting is that he is only making one post. :eek:
    It was his eleventh post (I think) which he announced he is leaving the game. o_O
    Now he's up to 12. :confused:

    This is the the second funniest thread I have read in a long time. The funniest is here. And both of them within days of each other. This is turning out to be quite a month and there's still 26 days to go. I can't wait to see what happens next! I mean seriously, you can't pay for this kind of entertainment. :D
    I quit! But before I do.. Let me whine! Only 2 more post!!

    Then 3 more!!! I am logging in Starmade to prove you are a jerk!!!

    I quit! *Logs back into Starmade to find more things to whine about.

    *Logiks.
     

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    draco645, There are plenty of players here trying to explain the issues you are having but you insist on calling people insane and blaming the devs for ruining the entire game. I think you're overreacting a bit. If you do not agree with people then at the very least do not respond with insults :)
     
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    draco645, There are plenty of players here trying to explain the issues you are having but you insist on calling people insane and blaming the devs for ruining the entire game. I think you're overreacting a bit. If you do not agree with people then at the very least do not respond with insults :)
    I think he is just misguided.

    He likes "covert OPs", but does not realise balance =/= bring able to go muzzle to muzzle with non cloaking ships.

    In a nutshell, he is forcing the cloaker to do what it isn't supposed to do.
     

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    lol I'm still trying to build a power reactor setup that doesn't insta-drain when trying to cloak and I'm still getting a laugh out of this guy that things a cloaker can and should win a drawn out fight against a full combat ship. The idea is to build the cloaker in such a way that you have a high chance of dealing a massive amount of single shot damage than recloak and move to another location and fire again.
     
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    from all these answers to the OP i conclude that i would disagree with whatever was writen by the OP.

    sorry i cant read his posts without risking to catch eye cancer
     
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    Lol,OP complaining about one silly broken ship (ship that was OP before this update),and here i have 200+ ships over 400m in my folder that are completely outdated and unbalanced from all previous updates,and i did not whine once
     
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    you know what cloakers REALLY should run?
    100% overdrive support on missile + beam combo.
    Huge range, massive first strike capability, missiles outrun point defense, and the long cool-down doesn't matter when you just re-cloak and run afterward. Fight your ship like a SUBMARINE man!
    Against AI a better strategy is to use missile + pulse because AI still can't use point defense turrets (confirmation required?)

    The way to make cloak workable is to fire from extreme range, or have some mechanism to preserve you during the recharge time.

    One more strategy: Spar Torpedo.
    Using either a large warhead cluster on a stick, or overdrive PULSE + PULSE, use your cloak to sail up beside an enemy ship and blow it up at ZERO RANGE. I can't believe that no one has covered EITHER of the excellent stealth strategies that this "nerf" does not affect. An alpha strike kill is more than possible at zero range, and cloaking makes a long range missile dual a cinch if you can come anywhere NEAR the enemy's shield regen in DPS.
     
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    All I can say is insta cloak war ships is unbalanced and shouldn't be a thing. Cloaking ships should be for suprise attacks, recon, or high alpha strikes as mentioned above. I remember a ship that I made once with cloaking. It was back when turrets fireing didn't disrupt cloak. That was REALLY bad. But how it was wasnt much better. I do belive they could change the cooldown to be around 5 seconds though. I think 8 might be a bit much.