Faction forum changes

[DukeofRealms]

StarMade faction politics are not for everyone, these implemented and proposed changes are to ensure that those who have no interest in participating do not have to. The goal is to make forum factions opt-in, instead of opt-out.

Implemented changes:

• Faction threads/posts do not show on "New Posts" or "New Threads" sidebar.
• Separate faction channel.
• Have faction subforum consist of two sections. A recruitment area, only faction recruitment threads, and relevant comments permitted. A general faction "roleplay" area, with separate (lighter) rules, mostly self-moderated.
• Warning message when entering faction "roleplay" section.
• Removed faction forums from appearing in new posts feed.
• Ban all faction related conversation from main SMD chat.

Proposed changes:

• Adjust Roleplay section rules.

Feedback is welcome.

CHANGELOG:
DD/MM/YYYY

13/09/2016: Added a separate faction channel & recruitment+roleplay sections.
14/09/2016: Warning message when entering faction "roleplay" section. Removed faction forums from appearing in new posts feed.
7/10/2016: Warning message on roleplay section node in forum list.
14/10/2016: Banned all faction related discussion from main chat and added specific rules.

 

[Az14el]

I think banning all faction related convo from SMD chat is going to be a bit hard on us all xD
Otherwise I'm all for this for sure

 

[Jaaskinal]

This is a good idea.

 

[Lecic]

I thought we were going to get a separate faction chat as well?

 

[Mariux]

• Ban all faction related conversation from SMD chat.

Agree with most points but definitely against this. Unless there's a separate chat channel.

• Warning message when entering faction "roleplay" section.

Hehe

 

[DukeofRealms]

I thought we were going to get a separate faction chat as well?

Yea, forgot to list it.

 

[Aesthetics]

I agree with this. Wise decision.

With faction politics left out of the new threads/posts sections, only those who have watched said threads/posts will recieve notifications for it and see it, therefore the new threads/posts section will instead contain more new posts related to Starmade itself, containing more useful information instead of years-old faction grudges.

A new faction chat channel would be ideal for faction politics, however talking about one's faction (i.e. "I've made a new shi[/station/whatever for my faction" or "My faction's member count is rather small" or "My faction's leader is an obnoxious cunt") in the general chat channel should not be considered an offence. If it isn't politics, allow it. The faction chat can be the House of Commons, if you will - hidden from the public, but what is discussed can be told to the public after the debate has taken place.

However, I would like to ask about the proposed faction subforum - Factions don't only just use the forums to recruit or roleplay, will there be other subforums for other things, too, or will they be left in the main faction forum?

As for the warning message with the roleplay section - I am not proud to say it's necessary, but it is.

 

[Lecic]

However, I would like to ask about the proposed faction subforum - Factions don't only just use the forums to recruit or roleplay, will there be other subforums for other things, too, or will they be left in the main faction forum?

I'm pretty sure by "roleplay" he means anything outside of recruitment.

 

[Aesthetics]

I'm pretty sure by "roleplay" he means anything outside of recruitment.

Politics, general faction discussion, reports of battles, taunting each other like uncivilised apes and stuff other than actual roleplay isn't really roleplay, is it? This brings back my question, what will the developers do with the other stuff that is neither strictly roleplay or strictly recruitment?

 

[Gonzalo]

i like this idea because the factions part of the forum is so big in itself

 

[CyberTao]

Politics, general faction discussion, reports of battles, taunting each other like uncivilised apes and stuff other than actual roleplay isn't really roleplay, is it? This brings back my question, what will the developers do with the other stuff that is neither strictly roleplay or strictly recruitment?

That all qualifies as Role Play yes. Afterall, its a game, why would you even bother making any kind of "formal announcement" or "battle report" if not role playing? That sort of stuff tends to be the base of most forum based conflicts, so I'm more than fine to see it shoved off into a corner.

 

[DukeofRealms]

Added a separate faction channel & recruitment+roleplay sections. Warning will be added in the next day.

 

[Valck]

make forum factions opt-in, instead of opt-out

Pretty please? Already getting swamped with recruitment threads.

 

[DukeofRealms]

Pretty please? Already getting swamped with recruitment threads.

I assume this is in new posts feed?

You can remove the Recruitment and Roleplay sections from your feed here: https://starmadedock.net/account/ignore-nodes

 

[Valck]

Thanks for the reminder, I keep forgetting that ;)
On my end, it is possible to select "Recruitment", but I can't select the entire "Factions" branch; also there are two entries for "Roleplay", one of which is not selectable either.

 

[DukeofRealms]

Thanks for the info, I keep forgetting that ;)
On my end, it is possible to select "Recruitment", but I can't select the entire "Factions" branch; also there are two entries for "Roleplay", one of which is not selectable either.

Yea, that's because you can only select sections which can receive threads/posts. The "Roleplay" section you can't select is simply the warning message node, which can't have any activity from it since it's simply an HTML page.

 

[Valck]

Yea, that's because you can only select sections which can receive threads/posts. The "Roleplay" section you can't select is simply the warning message node, which can't have any activity from it since it's simply an HTML page.

I see. May be a bit confusing, but no gripes as long as it works.

 

[DukeofRealms]

I see. May be a bit confusing, but no gripes as long as it works.

I've removed both the "Roleplay" and "Recruitment" section from appearing in the new posts section completely.

 

[Comr4de]

That entry page really screams "professional", great work.

 

[Master_Artificer]

Spoiler: I promise not to post b8 on the recruitment forum...

A thread to the [insert faction name here] refugees