Burst-Shot slave effect

[-Moose-]

Just spitballing an idea here. What if there was a weapon slave that made the master shoot in bursts, not a shotgun burst like missiles but a chaingun sort of burst one shot after another in quick succession.

The slave would divide the damage done evenly over the amount of shots. The slave will shoot one shot every 10% efficiency. At 100% efficiency it will shoot 10 shots, 50% efficiency will shoot 5 shots 30% efficiency will shoot 3 shots (etc etc). Then the reload speed of the cannon would be unaffected.

Why use this instead of a Cannon slave?

Each Individual shot still packs a fair bit of damage, making effects like Punch/Pierce/Explosion more viable than they would be on a cannon/cannon with 100% efficiency.

Larger ships will use this to fire a burst in between missile volleys, while smaller ships will use it to dogfight smaller ships while still maintaining a decent punch against larger ships.

What do you guys think?

 

[HerrColonel]

That's a good idea, i already thought about something like this, and totally +1

But I think it should be possible aswell to perform a burst with multiple barrels and be considered as a single "weapon"
This cannot be achieved with a slave effect, sadly

 

[Thalanor]

+1!
Also, what @HerrColonel said - although if we were able to place activation blocks (or a new logic block) into the hotbar, it would be possible to create gatling guns and burst cannons entirely by yourself (logic triggered delay circuits).

 

[Criss]

I would rather trade in my stupid looking shotgun lasers for this effect honestly. I do not get the appeal of having a laser break off into 40 random directions. Looks like a mess. This was something I mentioned before. With missiles as a secondary - burst fire for weapons, possibly area of effect for salvager. Missile-missile systems can remain the same.

 

[HerrColonel]

if we were able to place activation blocks (or a new logic block) into the hotbar, it would be possible to create gatling guns and burst cannons entirely by yourself (logic triggered delay circuits).

Yes It would be quite easy, just weapons linked in chain with a delay in between. With the current SLOWNESS to reload we have with a great number of weapons combo, it's a shame we can not already.

I would rather trade in my stupid looking shotgun lasers for this effect honestly. I do not get the appeal of having a laser break off into 40 random directions. Looks like a mess. This was something I mentioned before. With missiles as a secondary - burst fire for weapons, possibly area of effect for salvager. Missile-missile systems can remain the same.

+1
And the weapons default values are a pain

 

[Lecic]

I would rather trade in my stupid looking shotgun lasers for this effect honestly. I do not get the appeal of having a laser break off into 40 random directions. Looks like a mess. This was something I mentioned before. With missiles as a secondary - burst fire for weapons, possibly area of effect for salvager. Missile-missile systems can remain the same.

Burst doesn't really work for beams, does it? How about cannons get the burst effect, and beams get a more focuses "pencil shotgun" effect, where there is still slight spread over long range, but it's mainly a focuses array of multiple beams.

 

[Criss]

Burst doesn't really work for beams, does it? How about cannons get the burst effect, and beams get a more focuses "pencil shotgun" effect, where there is still slight spread over long range, but it's mainly a focuses array of multiple beams.

That is a good compromise. Or even just a thicker beam. It would technically spread the damage a bit.

 

[Mr.Steam]

How about a burst of slower moving but powerful "plasma balls". I personally would like to see a variety of different looking energy weapons.

 

[NeonSturm]

Goa'Uld Todesgleiter:
Put an activation-module into your hotbar, fire 3 cannon-pulse shots over 3 seconds. Make them orange.

I think weapons should have more customizable reload time with ammo clips.

Spoiler: Ammo-Clips Batteries

Min DPS : Your on-board ammo factory fills 1 clip every X seconds.
Capacity : You can have any number of clips or shots per clip.
Reload : You have a clip-switch-time or cycle-time.
Burst rate : You have a fire rate.
Cycle time = Reload + burstTime*burstShots

http://starmadedock.net/threads/best-ways-to-incorporate-ammo.3444/#post-52189

I think ammo should be implemented together with firing patterns.
Items, power => factory => clip
clip, power => drained by weapon

Items are optional.​

The only current problem with logic is you can't get logic cycles faster than 0.5 seconds.

 

[Yetimania]

Goa'Uld Todesgleiter:
Put an activation-module into your hotbar, fire 3 cannon-pulse shots over 3 seconds. Make them orange.

I don't think you can put activation modules in your hotbar. I wish you could.

 

[FunnyBunny14]

Use chests to remotely activate logic.

 

[HerrColonel]

Use chests to remotely activate logic.

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[FunnyBunny14]

Well, using the new logic status for storage and using the drop-down list for al the storages in the ship, you could make simple logic triggers. If the list also shows storages from docked entities, you could even make cross-entity appear to be possible, while the logic is essentially still on the same entity.

I'm hoping to use this for a modular ship design I have in mind, but it has to be possible to access the storages on docked ships from the mothership (still need to test that).

 

[Ithirahad]

Well, using the new logic status for storage and using the drop-down list for al the storages in the ship, you could make simple logic triggers. If the list also shows storages from docked entities, you could even make cross-entity appear to be possible, while the logic is essentially still on the same entity.

I'm hoping to use this for a modular ship design I have in mind, but it has to be possible to access the storages on docked ships from the mothership (still need to test that).

You can't access docked storages, sorry. That WOULD be great, though.

 

[FunnyBunny14]

When I get home I'm either going to bump a cross entity logic thread or create one. But I will get my ship!

Oh, I just realised that I can just temporarily go to my docked ship and access the storage from there. It's not as fun, but it will work for now. It does make multiple tools stupid though, as you'll have to cycle through every single entity.