No more disagree button?

[NeonSturm]

I imagine:
"I have nearly 1500 posts but only 500 likes... DAMN ALL THESE PEoPless liking these who quote me for the quote, but not me!!! "
> Isn't having very few likes bad enough?


The most obviously bad thing about the missing disagree button is that replys because of dis-agrees bump the Thread while agrees do not (as I already said in the first thread about this topic)

 

[blurb357]

If you disagree with someone I'd hope you are intelligent enough to articulate it without the ease of 'ooo clicky clicky'. Which got abused far too often.

see, I disagree with that, so what do i do, i sit here being angry, yes people abuse it but less often then not

 

[therimmer96]

Rimmer,
Say nothing. Let the weight of your silence carry itself.

What? Silly warsong, go home, you're drunk.

Sitting in silence would be the worst thing we could do. I want change, I am voicing that. Sitting here in silence would simply make people think we agreed with this change

 

[der_scheme]

see, I disagree with that, so what do i do, i sit here being angry, yes people abuse it but less often then not

Wait. Are you trying to express that you are not intelligent enough to articulate yourself, or what's happening?

 

[starhaiden]

no his is intelligent but doesn't know how to use it

 

[ToyotaSupra]

Let's be honest here. Does likes on an internet forum really matter? Nope. But they still give some contribution to the discussion.

I agree with @therimmer96 Why shouldn't we be able to voice our concerns? Instead of a huge TL: DR post we just have a simple 'dislike'.

Nevertheless Duke said it was causing people problems so I guess if it's bothering them that much then I'm glad they made the decision.

 

[starhaiden]

(I'm thinking like a troll) Now I can say what ever I want and I will never get a bad comment about it nobody but the admins can stop me.
The therimmer96 your cake looks plain there isn't much detail in it and it is very old. Any way the disagree button helps control the chat it makes so people will post less bad stuff in fear of being unpopular but it also makes so people don't post things that are completely different.

 

[DukeofRealms]

Nevertheless Duke said it was causing people problems so I guess if it's bothering them that much then I'm glad they made the decision.

It was, and I'll take the hate from those of you who oppose the decision. I enjoyed the function disagree gave, but the negative sides have been always in my ear. I don't like seeing users getting hundreds of disagrees all because of some personal disagreement. I do see the value in negative ratings, I was the one that introduced them.

I want diversity to emerge, and accurate ability to rate posts. Unfortunately, that was spoilt with users abusing the system, we as the moderation team came to the conclusion that it just wasn't worth the effort and we were getting too many complaints. We were and still are under the impression, that the majority of the users support this decision.

The disagree button is gone? You can't disagree with things anymore. Basically, this is the site owners a big middle finger to anyone who has a different opinion than someone else.

I'm sorry you feel that way, I value the community's opinions highly, and in saying that, it is a massive blow.

I get excited when someone posts in the 'Site Support/Suggestions' area, it doesn't happen as often as I like, but whenever it does, I'm usually happy at what I see. I enjoy fixing user's issues, and improving the forums for the community. But when I get responses such as I have been with the rating system, it really dampens my joy for the forums. Especially when it comes from some of the users I value greatly in the forum community.

Perhaps the disagree rating still has hope here, perhaps we should revert to just likes, but testing it and responses from you guys (nice responses if I might request), is the best way to find out. We're still a new forum, and we need to experiment to find the best solutions and features.

 

[SmilingDemon]

Go ahead and remove the Agree function then ... because it is pointless now!

and Optimistic / Old / BadSpelling also i am pretty sure no one needs them!

:P

 

[starhaiden]

yes that will be good then this will become a emotionless community, no pain no happiness no emotions this community will become like computers

 

[Asmael]

I feel like puking rainbows right now... AT EVERYONE!

E-V-E-R-Y-O-N-E!

...

Back on topic, the "Disagree" button has its uses. If you see a post with 10 like/agree and 30 disagree, well, that says pretty much everything. Without the "Disagree", peeps will repost and ask "Y but why dis is not implemented yet??? Dis haz many likes".

I also think it's a way to promote debates, as you'll want to know why people disagree with you. It's the basis of constructive criticism.

Now, if some troll feels like checking all the posts of a specific user and disagree with all of them... Well, mods are here for this. If there's no disagree button, there's still an old button. And optimistic (neutral rating... huh, who cares, rainbows).

...Tho it is true that some peeps get mad everytime someone disagree with them.

Anyway, what's done's done, we'll see what happens :3

PS: If you disagree... Rainbows. The lot of 'em.

 

[MossyStone48]

Emotionless is a bad thing I take it?

Spoiler: ORLY?

No, Mr Bond. I expect you to be logical.

We'll not be anything like computers. Their capacity is far too finite and our need to be complete blockheads from time to time trumps that. To err is human... to really **** it up you need a 4 year degree. Someone can be emotionless yet still have a modicum of empathy. And that's where most of our forum mellow-drama starts. An acute lack of empathy. We're just 'too smart' to remember the person on the other end has feelings; we're crass enough to not care because we find making others suffer makes us feel better about something wrong with ourselves or our lives. We pass this off as the event 'being entertaining'. Let me rephrase that in the parlance of the cat tubes: "4 teh lulz".

NOTE: I have, ofc, invoked the royal 'we'. As I'm not a particular fan of making others into my victims. (Unless they have signed the right forms and have an established credit line.)

TL ; DR: No. We don't need a disagree button. Collectively it'd be best to simply post your grievance and mozy on down the line. Someone else being wrong doesn't cost you a dime or make your cereal soggier faster. So grow up and move on. Or something similar, really.
Just move on.

 

[Jonj57]

The disagree button is gone? You can't disagree with things anymore. Basically, this is the site owners a big middle finger to anyone who has a different opinion than someone else.

My guess is he wants you to voice why you disagree rather than not informing anyone WHY you think it's bad.
Simply saying no with no context is just about as worthless as not saying anything at all, at least that's what I would think if I were looking for information about how to improve a game.

 

[Reilly Reese]

Why not make it where you rate disagree you have to write a reason? Reason stupid the site doesn't rate it like you wanted it to. As far as you (The stupid disagree rater) knows it did rate it disagree. It shows it on YOUR screen. Everyone else doesn't see it though and no ones stats have changed.


Troll the troll!!!!!

 

[blurb357]

Wait. Are you trying to express that you are not intelligent enough to articulate yourself, or what's happening?

No I am just saying that if someone needs to go somewhere and they disagree with some one then they can just press the button, it also allows the person to see how many people disagree with him. And i am obviously clever as I don't rise to such a provocative, idiotic comment, no offence, you r still my favorite tester!

 

[NeonSturm]

Maybe just don't call it disagree but

1. not my favourite
2. No support from me :p

 

[CyberTao]

Why not make it where you rate disagree you have to write a reason? Reason stupid the site doesn't rate it like you wanted it to. As far as you (The stupid disagree rater) knows it did rate it disagree. It shows it on YOUR screen. Everyone else doesn't see it though and no ones stats have changed.


Troll the troll!!!!!

Did you post the same thing twice? I would ask if it was a double post, but there are posts in between o- o My mind is so tired I cant even comprehend.

Also, youtube does that somewhat (Ghost banning, not fun) and doesn't really get us anywhere, since most of us talk smack behind a person's back on public chat at some point or another (pretty much the same thing).

 

[Ithirahad]

yes that will be good then this will become a emotionless community, no pain no happiness no emotions this community will become like computers

No; actually, then what would be accomplished is exactly what Warsong seems to want - "meaningful" responses only. However, I don't think that it'd be worth it.

Going back to just Likes wouldn't be too bad, though. Having Like and Dislike, but with no stupid reputation/statistics system, would be far superior. The only reason why Dislike is abused is the statistics system, which IMO just obstructs fair judgement and fair use of the ratings. We had issues with people abusing the positive ratings to make people look good, too, which is just as stupid if, not more so, than neutral rating spam.

 

[Reilly Reese]

Yeah site lagged and somehow I did a Grover Cleveland.

 

[Lecic]

Sometimes people just don't have time to type out a lengthy disagreement to a thread they don't like.
Other times, someone else has already posted something that shows my views on the thread and typing it out what would amount to a second time is pointless- just disagreeing with the thread and agreeing with the disagreement post is simpler.

I think removing the reputation system, as that was the main reason people abused it, would fix the issue. And, you know, just reporting people who abuse the disagree function for no reason.