Don't you think this is all just a little bit unfair?
unfair to whom? Tomato? No. To the community, possibly.
That maybe he didn't deserve half the ire that's been directed at him? That maybe nobody gets along with him because they refuse to even try?
for a long time and throughout the majority of this game's existence, he and his fans dominated the community here. So I wouldn't doubt that plenty of people have tried plenty enough to try to get along with him.
Did he overreact to this whole scenario and raise a hellstorm over it? Yes.
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It is my unbiased opinion that this whole issue was grossly mismanaged by the council and by Schine. You kids need to learn a little diplomacy before you just toss the unpopular student out the classroom window.
I somewhat agree with you. Its seemed a bit off to suddenly hear of his departure from the council. But toss the unpopular student? He got voted in, so he had some popularity. The problem is that his popularity isn't from THIS community. Its from his little rag tag group that doesn't actually participate with THIS community. Chances are the people who actually voted for him didn't even hear about the council from here, probably didn't even know what the council was. They just heard from their 'glorious leader' that he was running for some fun council thing here and all flocked just to vote for him.
Maybe Tomino_Sama wasn't cut out for the council, there were plenty of mutual misunderstandings, the hours didn't work for him and it's primarily operated here on the Starmade Dock, a place he rarely visits to begin with.
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Ok that's an overgeneralization
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He gets riled up because (some of) you people go out of your way to rile him up, as if trolling him is a rite of passage or something. You know who you are.
Define Trolling, then define Criticism. There is a distinct difference. This reminds me of the type of people on the internet who read criticism, decide they don't agree, then call it trolling or harassment. But I wouldn't doubt that trolling did happen, when you are a well known person on the internet of all places, trolling will happen. But in most cases of actual trolling that has happened here has been subdued by mods.
"Treat a person like a jerk and sooner or later, they'll become one". I think you've created a real monster here. Good job.
I think the monster came before the egg in this one.
Here's something for you to swallow, wiseguy. I didn't think Tomino_Sama belonged in the council either. If I had any influence over him, I would have advised him not to run in the election
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This whole thing has pretty much guaranteed that now I never will.
"I didn't vote and I never will but I will complain about the result despite my lack of participation"
I've got no stake in this, nothing to lose and even less to gain. I'm not white knighting here, there's no white left in this crapstorm on either side of the fence. I'm doing this because when something is wrong, it's wrong. And boy, have I witnessed a lot of wrong.
"I've seen things, but I really don't care cause it doesn't effect me and me saying something wont change anything but I just keep saying that I've seen things."
don't know or care what Tomino_Sama has said or done to anyone else here in the past. Sorry if he stole your wife and poisoned your water supply, but I've had no negative experiences with him whatsoever.
"There was snow on the ground today, global warming doesn't exist."
Unlike some mindless social chameleons here, I didn't jump on that bandwagon
"I have a different opinion, that makes me cool and socially superior."
The behavior of his detractors didn't lower my opinion of him, it lowered my opinion of the community.
"I didn't see part A happen, so part B makes me thing that part A didn't happen the way part B says it does."
Had he ever been left alone,
There would be a new thread everyday of some "crazy, wild", drug themed adventure he went on that anyone would have seen if they were subscribed to him on youtube. And then when someone says that what he did wasn't all that crazy or wild as advertised that person would have been called a troll and then a massive shit storm would have happened. So there's that.
I can never assume that there won't be some sort of bias.
Well the bias use to heavily swing in his favor so i'm liking this new established "bias".
And you will never, ever convince me in even a billion, trillion years that he was as bad as everyone seems to think. Unfit for the council maybe, but that's all I'll say.
But I haven't heard that much about him, specifically here. Maybe the small reference here and there but not really here. I haven't heard about him since his last major post here. Until now of coarse, but I don't think this thread was started to be about him, it was about what level of power the council has within this community. He was just used as an example. Whats most interesting is that according to your profile, you've only been here since February of this year. Have people been talking about him a lot since February? cause by then I thought his fame has well ran its course in this community by then. Cause I truly haven't seen much talk about him, if there is, I surely missed it.
Edit: so the original topic was kinda about him. But I feel that we should focus on the power of the council. Most of everyone agreed that he wasn't fit and now hes gone. So we got the end result that was most favored. But the method is what should be looked at.