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    Even when I was second in charge, I was always under your thumb, always in control, and trying to sway others so you have the advantage. In truth you were always a faction of one, as freedom to you is as much as the length of chain you deem it set too. I told them allot more than what was on the forums. I pay attention and listen. I told them of the real information you can obtain, the redacted documents u have are just a little bit of information. I'm the one who gave it to nature as well.

    " If I came at the king, then I would wear the crown." Leanson..

    your right, its been fun, its all a game.
     

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    You have personal files for each member??? That's actually pretty interesting! Would it be possible to PM me my file, I'm curious to see what's in there.
     
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    Even when I was second in charge, I was always under your thumb, always in control, and trying to sway others so you have the advantage. In truth you were always a faction of one, as freedom to you is as much as the length of chain you deem it set too. I told them allot more than what was on the forums. I pay attention and listen. I told them of the real information you can obtain, the redacted documents u have are just a little bit of information. I'm the one who gave it to nature as well.

    " If I came at the king, then I would wear the crown." Leanson..

    your right, its been fun, its all a game.

    you do realize you just admitted to my entire post and now nature and debris can't spin it to say it wasn't true right?
     
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    yes it doesn't matter, what's done is done.
    if you read clearly and fully you can understand that I spoke of the time I was in euro corp. When I left I gained my freedom, and control of my action. As I don't like to be controlled as you do many others.. Obi.. Its funny how many posts he likes. Anyways what's to spin..
     
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    The DFN recently approached me asking for peace, which I have no real issue with. But they seem to still have internal house issues that Might need to be addressed. when ranking members come to me of their own volition offering me information, well given my position as an information broker how can I refuse, and given the private nature of the conversation It would be against my personal ethics to out the supposed defector/spy. (yes ridik has ethics and rules he sticks to)



    Anyway I was going to post this in the DFN thread informing them of my concern, as I had no real issue with DFN just thought debris sucked as a leader (not as a person, he is a nice guy) so now creeper god is temporarily in charge it is obviously somewhat in my interest to see DFN do well post debris leadership. but I realized I can't make this post with out sounding like a smug turd and posting all the .gif's so to avoid trashing up the DFN thread I'll post it here.



    So on to the meat of the issue.
    Hey there folks, I thought it might be a good idea to discuss more sensitive things here first, before releasing them to the faction. This will help reduce leaks and other things. So, to kick things of, i have three suggestions i thought i might want to pass through you first.

    -A skype channel (or another instant message channel outside of starmade) This would enable us to have far more communication with our members, and get to know them a bit better

    -A weekly meeting between ourselves, in which we discuss the factions future and give our weekly reports on the goings on in our respective districts.

    -An intelligence/counter intelligence service, currently we dont have one, and i think it puts us at a serious disadvantage to other faction that do
    outrider here makes some good points, pity they are moot considering the leadership leaks like post iceberg titanic, but maybe I can consult on the issue.

    The first point having being addressed by the fact I am here posting this, the second point is good, skype is more secure thats true, and unlike mybattlecruisers later reply about not having a MIC, well you don't need one for skype, Though voice chats are harder to relay by proxy and leak. Personally I don't even let players join my faction who don't have a mic, it boggles my mind you guys allow non mic users in your leadership. but what ever not my faction.

    The 3rd point, about a weekly meeting again this should be best done by mic, even if you don't have one you can listen and reply by text, people should at least have working speakers.

    4. you should outsource that to professionals, or at least some more experienced players, the logs I have show a lot of people volunteering and picking names of friends out of a hat, who is qualified, who has qualifications?

    "I think we need an established chain of command, with multiple permanent Level 4 Leaders of Multiple Departments. In other words everyone in this chat (Besides Debris, by the way you need to invite him in this chat). By established I mean on the faction page. I would be Head of Military Operations. Creeper as Executive Ship Builder and Co-Leader. Unnamed as Head of Finance and Recruitment. Outrider as Head of Counterintelligence and Defense. Finally Splyntr as Vice President of Military Operations (Sorry but you are going to have to be more active forum wise)." ~ Mybattlecruiserisawesome

    This all just strikes me as meaningless titles for random people who happen to be liked by you, nepotism at its best I suppose. but my spies tend to be very likable so just be careful there.

    creeper god went on to make good points and asserted firm command and sounded like he wished to oversee everything himself, which helps keep things locked down, it sounded good, sounded great even, but he has no way to communicate with people outside the forums, for what ever reason. this means his leadership is delayed, hell he likely won't find out about the leadership leak and this thread until half a day or more later.

    "Actualy creeper i have something to say about point 1. What you suggest is that spies are the catalyst for wars, when in fact they are not. From past experience (eve) a lot of spies are used for passive spying, instead of actively awoxing or damaging a faction. Passive spying could be very handy, as it tells us when somebody plans to attack or their plans for the future. Furthermore, if the faction know that there is a spy in enemy faction A, then it can raise their moral, as they think they have an advantage over faction A." ~ outrider

    This guy seems to know what he is talking about, well what ever the case, he is not wrong, dat eve player experience yo, hell even people who aren't euro-corp who defect and leak me stuff, just do it so they can feel involved in the drama and lols and not feel like it is at their expense.

    anyway what ever, hope DFN gets better soon, I'll be in the background keeping an eye out as always,
     
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    Howthehelldidheeven?!?!?!

    Ridik, you scare me.
     
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    I have found a ranking spy in one of ridiks factions. I will not say his name for security reasons. He has recently told me that they are running low on big ships to fight with and are very vulnerable at this time.
    we went over this, how many times do we have to go over this? also what factions plural, its just me doing my ridik thing, with my one man faction. but in regards to running low on big ships. well I have at least 2 whole fleets,. if you catch my meaning. Can someone remove balltecruiser from command its clear he has no idea what he is talking about LOL

    sorry battle cruiser, you just can't act like you know a thing, drop my name and hope I won't care
     
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    Ridik I should probably tell you this but none of them are higher than lvl 2 as of now (so they aren't excatly "ranking members" ) and the decision was based on who seemed to fit the roles not who I like. (you aperently have full access to the conversation so you should know this :p )

    note: please don't take this as me being defensive. if it comes across that was I'm sorry.
     
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    Your an Ridik...
    YOU'RE = you are/ your = ownership
    aww, did I embarrass you in front of your friends?

    "Your a complete dick."
    True, I could have told you that...

    "I mean seriously almost no one likes you."
    everyone that matters does...

    "You spy around and barge in to peoples chats."
    I can't deny that

    "Now that is a complete dick move."
    was it not before?

    "How about you go crawl all the way back to your one man faction where you came from and stay the [$#@%] away from our faction chat and everyone elses."
    Are you telling me what to do,in my own thread? They sound like fighting words...


    Creeper__God you might want to put a leash on your dog before he starts something he can't finish. I tried to be helpful and inform you of issues in your leadership, and some no name nobody starts talking smack behind my back, I call him out and now this...now he is saying I am a one man faction...which I won't deny or agree with, but if I am a 1 man faction, then he Lied to the DFN leadership about having a spy in my ranks. its politics when we lie to our enemies, but what do we call it when we lie to our own faction members? incompetence maybe?

    If I caught one of my spies/members lying to me, well they wouldn't be my spy/member anymore, your in charge now creeper, everyone is watching how you handle these issues.

    -Politely edited by Claru with permission from Ridik-
     
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    Your a complete dick. I mean seriously almost no one likes you. You spy around and barge in to peoples chats. Now that is a complete dick move. How about you go crawl all the way back to your one man faction where you came from and stay the FUCK away from our faction chat and everyone elses.
    [insert one of the oldest jokes on the internet here]
    I like Ridik. I want him to make me his Irish slut wife.
     
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    That felt good. Also thank you for helping me root out some spies in our faction.
     
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    That whole thing was a giant ass ploy to root out a spy in our faction and I thank you for that.
     
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