New missile explosions.

[HolyCookie]

first i want to thank schema for the AI improvements, especialy the missiles.

second, i want to know this:
since when can a missile vary in it's damage?!


so i have this nuke missile on my ship, and a target with 0 shields.
how come that when i shoot my nuke the first time, i do as much damage as my heat seaking missiles of 20 modules. and the othertime i do the proper damage, about 5000 modules and explosion effect.
makes no sense, this is most likely a glitch because a missile would do always the same damage when the situation is the same, and it was, enough blocks to break and no shields.
please fix it, i rely on my nuke missiles

 

[Crusade]

Because the first impact is hitting the target with 100% armor, so it absorbs a lot of the damage. When the armor gets lower, it does more and more damage.

This is intended behavior as far as i know.

 

[HolyCookie]

Because the first impact is hitting the target with 100% armor, so it absorbs a lot of the damage. When the armor gets lower, it does more and more damage.

This is intended behavior as far as i know.

meh impossible
the third hit was smaller than the second hit, explain that :p

 

[Crusade]

Hit the armor at an odd angle. Armor blocks propagation of explosions as well.

 

[Reilly Reese]

The shape of your target now has a bigger impact on what level of damage is accrued.

Might mean those doom cubers might start putting random angles on their stuff.

 

[godmars]

I'm trying to figure it out as well. Missiles on the fighter I was testing with went from doing 9k to 50k per the damage screen, but they seem to do negligble damage while having a pumped up energy cost.

I think with the missile rework not 100% of that damage is being applied depending on shape like Thadius said. If I was reading the patch notes right to get the max damagae out of a missile you'd have to punch through the armor and fire it into the ship which explains why your second shots did more damage

 

[Winterhome]

You get the most damage by hitting inside a small, deep hole.

Failing that, you want a totally flat surface. A totally flat surface ensures that only half the explosion goes into space.

Hit a curve and you lose more damage. Hit a sharp wing or spire and you waste even more.

 

[karkinosz]

So guys, we know exactly the types of structures to avoid right :P

But in all seriousness this is a pretty nice change and seems to work pretty well as far as I've seen.

 

[HolyCookie]

You get the most damage by hitting inside a small, deep hole.

Failing that, you want a totally flat surface. A totally flat surface ensures that only half the explosion goes into space.

Hit a curve and you lose more damage. Hit a sharp wing or spire and you waste even more.

sounds like the bounce off suggestion I made long ago, only 1 thing is not true
as in theory not true, maybe in game true.
a wedge can be a flat surface, depending on what angle you look at that wedge, just as a block can look like a wedge at a certain angle.
in theory the angle of the missile should count, the type of block says what effects the angle of the missile give.

anyone proposing doom balls yet?
[DOUBLEPOST=1436663163,1436663030][/DOUBLEPOST]also, I must say that angle makes quite the difference between half a ship destroyed or only 1 fifth of it destroyed.

 

[Keptick]

You get the most damage by hitting inside a small, deep hole.

Failing that, you want a totally flat surface. A totally flat surface ensures that only half the explosion goes into space.

Hit a curve and you lose more damage. Hit a sharp wing or spire and you waste even more.

That means my spiky ships of doom got a buff!!! Hells yes! :D

 

[HolyCookie]

That means my spiky ships of doom got a buff!!! Hells yes! :D

i guess all good looking ships did :D

 

[PizzaPress]

So I guess PvP ships will look like 40K spikey armor now?

 

[StormWing0]

lol spiky armor setup sounds like it would be a pain to setup but funny to watch the results of.

 

[max stripe]

sounds like the bounce off suggestion I made long ago, only 1 thing is not true
as in theory not true, maybe in game true.
a wedge can be a flat surface, depending on what angle you look at that wedge, just as a block can look like a wedge at a certain angle.
in theory the angle of the missile should count, the type of block says what effects the angle of the missile give.

anyone proposing doom balls yet?
[DOUBLEPOST=1436663163,1436663030][/DOUBLEPOST]also, I must say that angle makes quite the difference between half a ship destroyed or only 1 fifth of it destroyed.

ive made several doom balls in the past that were under 100meters diameter and could take out planets