Starter vessel contest

[kikaha]

Starter Ship

Here's one i made especially for this thread.

 

[EricBlank]

Mine's a bit on the small side, but I've got the KP-339, a fairly simple shuttle that can be reequipped for most any mission. It's fast, powerful, has its own jump drive and scanner, and defensive beam turrets, and the power to run it all and haul 5k cargo to boot. It does run into problems trying to run a radar jammer along with charging the jump drive and engaging the thrusters; there's not much space left for power lines. It comes standard with overdrive and stop effects, both a little bigger than they need to be.

KP-339 Starter shuttle

 

[RoyalWolfe]

The concerns aren't that it will interfere with what we are doing. As much as it is to do with we don't know when its gonna change, no specific timeline was given it could be weeks, or months. and saying OH your making it out to be worse than it is, is not helping. I'm not setting a deadline because things are chaotic and unknown. till they say something specific we will react accordingly.

so I'm keeping it open for participants to at least prepare for the eventual changes. for the time being we are gonna continue as originally planed.

 

[Gasboy]

The concerns aren't that it will interfere with what we are doing. As much as it is to do with we don't know when its gonna change, no specific timeline was given it could be weeks, or months. and saying OH your making it out to be worse than it is, is not helping. I'm not setting a deadline because things are chaotic and unknown. till they say something specific we will react accordingly.

so I'm keeping it open for participants to at least prepare for the eventual changes. for the time being we are gonna continue as originally planed.

It was stated and implied that smaller ships won't have the same complexity in their reactors, they'd need just the reactor core and not have to worry about coolant chambers and conduits. And it's very likely that the amount of room needed for the reactor core is LESS than the amount of room taken up by power generator and power recharger lines.

Since starter ships are small by definition, the amount of work to overhaul one shouldn't be all that much or difficult.

Sure, we don't know what the final change will look like, but I think they're going to at least aim for what they stated for their goals.

If this was a titan building contest, then yeah, I think people would and should be real mad. :P

 

[Gasboy]

Is going to be funny try to make a 7x7x7 ship with a "decent" cockpit and a "reactor core room" + the other stuff without looking like a <put here a word that makes perma ban> cube.

Gasboy can you tell me what is the minimun ship size you use?

Well, if you make a 7x7x7 ship, how many power blocks do you put in? As I said in the bit you quoted, fighters will only have to use a reactor core. Nothing said about needing a "core room". If you can build that 7x7x7 ship with the same power taking up less blocks, are you going to be happy or upset?

You can go into my profile and see the stuff I have for downloads. The smallest ships I have are about 35m x 30m-ish x 15m-ish. Not all that much bigger than your 7x7x7 ship, at least, it's in the same ball park. And if the new system means I have to have a small # of core blocks, plus 1m all around it in empty space? That means the wings of my little fighters WON'T be jammed with power and power regen, so I can put more shields or weapons in. This is a bad thing how? And it'll take me, hmm, about a half hour to change it.

 

[Gasboy]

35x30x15 size? that explain why you have no problem with the energy system change because you have the space to make a "room" and your ship shape is going to get improved stats.

Okay, but again, we will get more power out of less blocks and space. Do you think this is a bad thing? You seem to have avoided the question the last time.

As for my ships, you can do whatever you want with them. If I really want to spend the time to do more tweaking, I could.

Sincerely after probably more than 3 years in the Starmade, do not you really know how to place the power reactors correctly? Or i am losing something about waste space on that way?

Oh, so sorry I didn't build my ships perfectly to your exacting specifications. Maybe you could come and play my other games for me too, yeah?

 

[Gasboy]

Same question same answer, if you can not understand me please say it ill try explain it better: Until Schine release a DEvbuild to play with that a little we only can do assumptions. I do not think Schine is goign to change only the "power mechanics", you are assuming that we will have more space for shields etc etc, when they are probably modified too.




Okey thx for that ill pimp that Halberd i think can get a lot more juice from redoing that power systems.




Breaking new! you want to change the energy mechanics to have more space when with the current energy mechanics you are wasting space doing the capacitor stuff on a wrong way. Using the most efficient way is not something that only belongs to me, now you can take my words as an insult or try to learn what you did wrong to improve it and be a little better builder.

Schine stated succintly that smaller ships could have up to 50% fewer power blocks. It's right there in their proposal. They are going to aim to reduce the amount of blocks needed for power. Maybe they won't get it bang on, but we have every reason to believe they're going to try.

They also stated that most other systems will have less blocks required.

I very much doubt that the spaces required by the heat mechanic will be equal to, let alone more than, the space used by systems currently.

And you do not need to know Schine's exact plan to know that having more power and sytems in less space is a good thing. You'd have to have ridiculously bad drawbacks to counter that.

As for my ships, feel free to change them all you want. Just don't post them anywhere, please.

And I do know how the mechanics work, thank you very much. It does not mean we are forced to squeeze every last ounce of power and weaponry out of our ships. Some people enjoy minmaxing their ships, and that's perfectly fine. I prefer 'close enough'.

 

[Gasboy]

Since you told me first i can do whatever i want i am going to pimp that halberd and uploading at the dock, of course all TM stuff original or whatever you want to call it is going to have your name, i think is the best point to show how people that want a power change is mostly because they do not know how to build properly. Sorry if you understood that like something bad.

I can change my mind about things that I built. You know what, don't bother putting it on the dock. You can do what you want for personal use, but no, you cannot put it on the dock.

And it's not that I don't know how to build properly. I just don't care. They're my ships, I'll do what I wish. If you're so gun ho to change people's ships, I'm sure just about every ship on the dock could be "improved".

 

[Gasboy]

Sorry i think i can upload the modified version somewhere at internet, and do not worry as i said your name, TM or whathever you want to call it is going to be there, at the end of the day you were the creator, i'm just going to change a little the guts of the ship.

If all you do is change the internals a little, then I'll be able to have it taken down. If you want to rebuild the entire ship enough for it to be a derivative work, feel free.

Edit: Also, where did I say I didn't like the current power system?

I was only arguing that smaller ships wouldn't be as affected by the power change in that it would not take long to refit them. It's a starter ship contest.

And if Schine stays true to their intention, small ships benefit far more than bigger.