Potential bug. This turret does not work. Can anyone test it?

[Crushtime]

Hey all. I have an issue with turrets. I have made some ships with smaller rail turrets. You can see examples here:
http://starmadedock.net/content/whitewing.1614/
and Here:
http://starmadedock.net/content/dominion.2858/

They work perfectly.

However, recently when I tried to construct a larger rail turret (with lasers) I cannot get it to work. The base turret section turns and the top section of the turret works as well, but they do not work together. The top moves, but the bottom half of the turret does not move with it. I am wondering if this is a bug. I need an independent person to check this phenomenon. Can anyone download this sment file and check if the turret works? (by that i mean, check if the top section rotates with the bottom section, because in my world it does not (no matter how many times i load it in or whatever ship i try it on). Neither does the AI work. I have tried this on much larger ships, this last ship I saved this on was simply another trail in frustration.

Thanks!

 

[Mork2]

Okay figured it out I think.

The barrel that elevates its ship core is sideways. As in rotated left around the Z-Axis. It should be orientated the same way as the turret horizontal rotation ship core. They should both be setup so that up is up for both the horizontal and vertical rotation parts I believe. I'm not sure if I'm explaining this well.

 

[Crushtime]

Ahhh, I think I understand. Yes, the turret was originally designed to rest on top of a ship. So yes, the "top" of the turret is pointing to the side when mounted on the turret base. You're saying that the "top" of the turret actually needs to be the "top" of the turret base (when mounted) as well.

Ill flip the turrets around the core (sigh, more work, hah) and see if it works. Ill post a reply to this tomorrow. Thanks for the help Mork2!

 

[Crushtime]

Finally got my turrets flipped around. (after about 2 hours) It worked! Good show.

 

[Crushtime]

Ok, sorry to come back to this issue, but I am again having problems with this turret. Thanks to Mork2, I have gotten it working in the sense that it feels and works like a normal turret when entered (the weapons fire, it moves along both axes at the same time no problem). However, i have a new issue. the AI simply won't work. I have tested it both on larger ships and on planets.

When activated, I always initiate a wave to test out new turrets. But with swarming pirates it simply twitches (very slowly) a bit. It'll move ever so slightly up and then ever so slightly to the left or right (no firing). It's very confusing. Anyone have any advice? I am slowly running out patience and ideas. I must have a combined 10 hours of work and testing put into this thing now, hah.

I have uploaded the most recent .sment file. It has all the necessary energy regen and energy tanks to test fire, plus some small thruster units. Would appreciate any help.

Note: the AI is located on the left side barrel, where the barrel extends past the turret base (tucked just behind a blockwide extra layer of shielding, but still visible)

Thanks,
Crushtime

 

[Mork2]

Works fine for me but its rotating very slowly speeds up with rail mass enhancers on the main body from the numbers currently to get maximum speed you need ( turret mass - 50) /3.5 = rail mass enhancers. There is a bug with mass enhancers which might mean you need more at the moment. I'm going to have this issue as well as my main capital turret is over 4k mass.

 

[Rodeown]

Crushtime, looked at your turret and realised what it needed, I have made a video of it for you to see, all you need is to add mass enhancers to the turret base to cope with the weight of the barrel, you have room inside above the core so I tried it and it works fins as long as you have mass enhancers on your main base too to cope with the combined weight of turretbase and barrel.

 

[Reilly Reese]

Rodeown whats up with your saturation? Things are slightly brownish/yellowish.

 

[Rodeown]

Rodeown whats up with your saturation? Things are slightly brownish/yellowish.

Not sure, Youtube seems to be changing something in the upload, the original is clear and nice coloured

 

[Reilly Reese]

In that case go to your youtube video manager click your video and go to enhancements and see if everything is set to 0.

Most likely you have color temperature modified in there.

 

[Crushtime]

Wow, I really appreciate the help Rodeown and Mork2! I just played around a bit with mass enhancers and got the turrets to work! They fired at AI! (and then when i loaded in a lot of more deadly AIs they stopped again, haha!). Anywho, no big deal, i probably have to play with them a bit.

I really loved your video Rodeown. Thanks! I have always loved balancing power and aesthetics. But with this last release (and frankly since the last big weapons patch) i have been a little lost at sea as to how to make effective guns and turrets. I am slowly learning (ion for shield busters, etc). I appreciate all commentary.

Ill release the turret plus the main capital ship it attached to later. Here is a sneak peak image:

Thanks again!