Do not make this game die

[Aesthetics]

Yeah, not playing this game, just making sure relevant parts are quoted in case he edits them later.

Do you really believe that by quoting my words, you hold some leverage over me? I am amused, but I have tolerated you long enough. If you wish to keep railing against me, persisting in your passive-aggressive state of denial and assumption with your little circle-jerk of friends, so be it. It changes nothing. You have nothing over me that is not an over-inflated ego and a poorly-founded sense of entitlement. It will remain that way.

Goodbye.

 

[Ithirahad]

Its a game, we don't care if anything makes sense or not, if it ruins the game for a lot of players its bad.
If you don't want magic stuff then:
> why don't we add oxygen bottles, food and water, and if you run out you die?
> why don't we add collision damage (and G's)
> why don't we add fuel
> why don't we remove the building block / core building mode (its magic to me)
> why do we allow transporting 2k stuff on yourself
> why stations can't move?
> why homebase are not destroyable
ETC
Games are not here to make sense, they are here to be playable

'Corrections' for most of the things you listed would be totally adding new features that mess with the core gameplay (O2, food, water, collision damage, fuel...) or breaking more-or-less necessary functions (homebase protection, advanced build mode). Tying blueprints into shipyards isn't either of those; we already have blueprint spawning and this would just smooth it out and make it feel more integrated into the game.

 

[Neon_42]

Just my 2 cents on the issue is that Starmade needs to ask itself what problem constructs solve, otherwise it is just a voxel modeling program with extra sci-fi bits attached. Starmade is a ship building game at its core. All these issues regarding movement of ships, constructions, economies, survival, are sub-questions to the bigger issue of, what do we do with constructs? e.g. A cargo ship isn't useful unless it transfers goods from one place to another, but there needs to be a reason to transfer goods around. A warship is good at disabling your enemies, but there isn't a reason to go to war. Just about the only ship that is useful at the moment are mining ships because you need resources to build ships. There is a lack of diversity beyond this. This leads into what roles people want to play as but as of right now Starmade doesn't enable many roles beyond ship designer. Solving this issue will hopefully come in the universe update, but right now we have few details about what it contains.

 

[Nosajimiki]

Do you really believe that by quoting my words, you hold some leverage over me? I am amused, but I have tolerated you long enough. If you wish to keep railing against me, persisting in your passive-aggressive state of denial and assumption with your little circle-jerk of friends, so be it. It changes nothing. You have nothing over me that is not an over-inflated ego and a poorly-founded sense of entitlement. It will remain that way.

Goodbye.

Please don't antagonize people without actually stating your grievances. It undermines the rest of us when we actually have directed criticisms of how much we disagree with their opinions and actions.

 

[Aesthetics]

Please don't antagonize people without actually stating your grievances. It undermines the rest of us when we actually have directed criticisms of how much we disagree with their opinions and actions.

On the contrary, I have stated my grievances. It was the circlejerking of JinM and Edymnion you may scroll through on page 13 of this thread. their delusions that all other space sandbox games, all other alternatives, are merely "clones" that have copied Starmade, and subsequently dismissing them while scratching each others' backs. It appals me - I find such ignorance abhorrent - and I would have explained such had Edymnion stepped down from his high horse of entitlement, and asked me nicely to explain.

He is beyond reason - him and JinM alike. I see no further reason to prolong this discussion any further.

 

[aceface]

You do not make demands of me. Mind your tongue, and ask again.

is this a part of the sith roleplay?

 

[Aesthetics]

is this a part of the sith roleplay?

No, not really. I'm screwing with him; trying to gauge how he responds to someone who challenges his demands, and his sense of entitlement. To crack his ego. The response therein was negative, and through that, I understand he cannot be reasoned with.

 

[Nosajimiki]

On the contrary, I have stated my grievances. It was the circlejerking of JinM and Edymnion you may scroll through on page 13 of this thread. their delusions that all other space sandbox games, all other alternatives, are merely "clones" that have copied Starmade, and subsequently dismissing them while scratching each others' backs. It appals me - I find such ignorance abhorrent - and I would have explained such had Edymnion stepped down from his high horse of entitlement, and asked me nicely to explain.

He is beyond reason - him and JinM alike. I see no further reason to prolong this discussion any further.

Thank you. Generally I agree that they have caused harm to the game and community by undermining the people who actually understand the game's mechanics and limitations and encouraging forward momentum in clearly disterious directions. As for page 13, I don't really see any damage done here. Personally, I think your efforts would might be better spent not getting banned so you can actually disagree with them when it matters.

No, not really. I'm screwing with him; trying to gauge how he responds to someone who challenges his demands, and his sense of entitlement. To crack his ego. The response therein was negative, and through that, I understand he cannot be reasoned with.

Screwing with someone to see if they accept being screwed with is not a good litmus test of a person's ability to be reasoned with. Only tells you what their insecurities and go to defense mechanisms are.

 

[Aesthetics]

As for page 13, I don't really see any damage done here.

The circle-jerking of misinformation, the scratching of each others' backs with an overall passive-aggressive tone is the wrong here I find insufferable. Perhaps you feel different, I will not judge it.

Personally, I think your efforts would might be better spent not getting banned so you can actually disagree with them when it matters.

I disagree. If I am banned, I will not care. Infact, I may welcome it. A break from the bickering that leads nowhere forward would do most of us the world of good, and I am no exception.

Screwing with someone to see if they accept being screwed with is not a good litmus test of a person's ability to be reasoned with. Only tells you what their insecurities and go to defense mechanisms are.

On the contrary, to crack one's ego gives someone a choice: to lash out, to be humbled or be silent. In lashing out, there is no hope for reasoning with that someone. In humility, a dialogue is opened, and the window of reason and discussion along with it. In silence, the opportunity for that someone to ponder the circumstances presents itself, and it may give him the time to "cool off".

One might argue that to illicit a negative response to a demand fuelled by entitlement and ego is not likely to humble him, and I agree, but it presents a test to see whether an individual values themselves over discussion, their ego over information. The question was thus answered, and I came to my conclusion this way. I may be in error, however. Perhaps I jumped to that conclusion as it was what I wanted to hear, for I could no longer bear conversing with the likes of JinM or Edymnion any further.

However, I do accept that it does answer the questions of what their insecurities are, how they "defend" themselves. In those questions, I found the answers unsurprising.

In any case, I believe it beneficial if I took a step back. Not to observe, or amuse, but to ignore. This thread has outlived its purpose, and in my contribution I have fuelled a fire of petty squabbles.

 

[ProudHebrew1990]

Hello yes myself take read uploaded text in previous pages and myself with able to't helped prevent noticed the this game is actually "dying"

servers am quite emptiness compare to other games similar to that

 

[Edymnion]

No, not really. I'm screwing with him; trying to gauge how he responds to someone who challenges his demands, and his sense of entitlement. To crack his ego. The response therein was negative, and through that, I understand he cannot be reasoned with.

Well, the way I respond is to simply hit "Report Post".

If you'd like to give some examples of space based voxel games that existed prior to Starmade that are still currently in development, I'm happy to listen to your stance on them not being Starmade clones. If you can't be polite, I'm also happy to give you all the rope you want. To me its win win. We either get constructive discussions, or the toxic people out themselves and get banned. Either is perfectly acceptable to me.

I may not agree with Nosajimiki, but I'm always happy to see his input because he knows how to remain civil. We're all here because we enjoy the same game. We might enjoy and want to promote different aspects of it, but we can at least respect each other.

 

[Aesthetics]

Well, the way I respond is to simply hit "Report Post".

If you'd like to give some examples of space based voxel games that existed prior to Starmade that are still currently in development, I'm happy to listen to your stance on them not being Starmade clones. If you can't be polite, I'm also happy to give you all the rope you want. To me its win win. We either get constructive discussions, or the toxic people out themselves and get banned. Either is perfectly acceptable to me.

I may not agree with Nosajimiki, but I'm always happy to see his input because he knows how to remain civil. We're all here because we enjoy the same game. We might enjoy and want to promote different aspects of it, but we can at least respect each other.

Do not pretend to have the moral high-ground, it will not serve you here. You had a chance to be civil and discuss things appropriately long before my input, you blew it by behaving as you always do - in a passive-aggressive, condescending and circle-jerking manner that bends the rules of this forum, for they are not blunt breaches of it, your post deletions prior are proof enough of that.

Report if you wish, I welcome the outcome. I have exhausted myself in dealing with you, and it no longer entertains nor serves a significant purpose. Again, I bid you goodbye. It will be kept that way, from now on.

 

[Groovrider]

This thread will be closed as it is no longer serving its original purpose and has devolved into an argument over user behaviour.