Change missiles into plasma torpedoes because...

[Sven_The_Slayer]

Any kind of missile or rocket that leaves smoke trails is chemically propelled, Ion engines don't leave that trail, neither are they capable of enough acceleration to cross a section of space in reasonable time (like, even slower than current missiles) Also, Ion engines don't work in an atmosphere, so you wouldn't be able to fire planet based missiles.

It's archaic technology compared to what other things are in Starmade, I'd much prefer is they just turned them into blobs of plasma being fired at the same speed as AMC's.

How exactly does a blob of plasma track targets? Also starmade is it's own thing, it doesn't exactly have to adhere to any standard other than it's own. I am also amused when people know exactly how technology that hasn't been invented acts. I've never heard that Ion propulsion is slow and cannot be used in atmosphere.

 

[Vakna]

How exactly does a blob of plasma track targets? Also starmade is it's own thing, it doesn't exactly have to adhere to any standard other than it's own. I am also amused when people know exactly how technology that hasn't been invented acts. I've never heard that Ion propulsion is slow and cannot be used in atmosphere.

You're joking, right? Ion propulsion technology has been around for years, there's even a NASA spacecraft called DAWN in the asteroid belt right now that uses the Ion engines.

 

[Sven_The_Slayer]

You're joking, right? Ion propulsion technology has been around for years, there's even a NASA spacecraft called DAWN in the asteroid belt right now that uses the Ion engines.

fair point, but still Ion propulsion today =/= Ion propulsion in the future.

 

[Crimson-Artist]

if they plan on having color crystals affect all weapons then it stands to reason that the missile globs could be plasma

also i was hoping that the logic blocks could be hooked up to the firing methods of missiles. say connect the delay blocks to a D1000 comp as well as the first volley of missile blocks then select the delay block and connect the next arrays of missile blocks. and so on and so forth.

if done right we could get some awesome cascading missile volleys rather than all arrays firing at once

 

[Sven_The_Slayer]

if they plan on having color crystals affect all weapons then it stands to reason that the missile globs could be plasma

also i was hoping that the logic blocks could be hooked up to the firing methods of missiles. say connect the delay blocks to a D1000 comp as well as the first volley of missile blocks then select the delay block and connect the next arrays of missile blocks. and so on and so forth.

if done right we could get some awesome cascading missile volleys rather than all arrays firing at once

erhem

Spoiler

...and yes if we are able to change the color of our missiles I expect you can color them and call them whatever you want... hence why the official title should be as neutral as possible.

 

[Vakna]

fair point, but still Ion propulsion today =/= Ion propulsion in the future.

Why? Slow but almost limitless acceleration and efficient fuel usage is the basic staple of the Ion engine, that's not going to change with time, you might get improvements like even more efficient fuel usage, but you can't change to absolute basic elements of a system without transforming it into something entirely different.

 

[Crimson-Artist]

erhem

Spoiler

I wasn't talking bout using activation blocks to fire it. i was taking about linking the delay blocks directly to the way us fire weapons while in a ship core. i already knew they u can use activator blocks to fire weapons but unless u got some friends to help u fire them it wouldn't work for solo players in the heat of combat.

 

[Sven_The_Slayer]

Why? Slow but almost limitless acceleration and efficient fuel usage is the basic staple of the Ion engine, that's not going to change with time, you might get improvements like even more efficient fuel usage, but you can't change to absolute basic elements of a system without transforming it into something entirely different.

Its still a science fiction based game, it doesn't have to be 100% bound in reality and we don't know what the future will hold. Ion drives could be any kind of propulsion system that uses Ions in order to function, it doesn't have to be even close to the technology used today by NASA. Just look at steampunk and what stretches they take with simple steam power.

I wasn't talking bout using activation blocks to fire it. i was taking about linking the delay blocks directly to the way us fire weapons while in a ship core. i already knew they u can use activator blocks to fire weapons but unless u got some friends to help u fire them it wouldn't work for solo players in the heat of combat.

AFAIK you will be able to put activation blocks in your hotbar in the future and use them while piloting a ship.

 

[Crimson-Artist]

AFAIK you will be able to put activation blocks in your hotbar in the future and use them while piloting a ship.

ok that makes sense. was it confirmed to be in the next update? cuz i have heard no mention of something like this at all.

 

[Sven_The_Slayer]

ok that makes sense. was it confirmed to be in the next update? cuz i have heard no mention of something like this at all.

I don't know if it will be, it really should be but I don't know. Honestly I would be really disappointed if they added this huge expandable system and then neutered it by not letting us control it via the cockpit.

 

[Incap]

I hate the idea and disagree with all of it, just because the word 'plasma' has been used.

I like my Chemical propelled projectiles and I want them to stay. Don't fix what isn't broken to begin with. Archaic? Perhaps, all that depends on onboard systems and the warhead. Effective? Oh yes.

 

[Bannta]

How about make two types of missles...energy base (low damage, requires energy) and ammo base(no energy, high damage, extra mass per torpedo/missle). Ammo base weapons would require restock. Also could explode if storage location is compromised thus causing additional damage.

 

[Lecic]

I like the idea that it creates new rockets using duplicators or something, and that it takes time and energy to do so.

Globs of plasma don't leave trails, explode, last very long without cooling off, or having tracking systems. They are definitely not plasma rockets.

 

[Incap]

Also, you can't fire a plasma torpedo or missile that is made of pure plasma. That's just stupid. It'd have to be a plasma based warhead on a CHEMICALLY PROPELLED PROJECTILE.

Stop trying to shoehorn plasma into this damn game!

"b-but anti matter cannons and m-muh archaic chemical projected weapons!" The AMCs are being renamed Cannons just to not confuse you all. Since it they were Anti-Matter, the smallest gun would blow a hole in the side of the fucking universe!

 

[karkinosz]

The entire star made universe is probably made of antimatter, all positrons and anti-protons. Thus why anti matter cannons are so ineffective. Also plasma is not something you'd ever use in a weapon, ever. It's far too hot to use in space and its gaseous nature will cause it to just spread out it's heat dissipating as all forms of EM radiation. Plasma isn't even protected by the rule of cool since it's a stupidly overused soft sci fi trope.

 

[Incap]

The entire star made universe is probably made of antimatter, all positrons and anti-protons.

I... I ... what? I don't even know where to start on that.

 

[Lecic]

-a very large anime snip-
I... I ... what? I don't even know where to start on that.

The theory is that, since AMCs barely do any damage unless they are larger, the starmade universe is antimatter.

However, they're being renamed to just "cannons" so that theory is junk.

I think a much more likely possibility is that atoms in this universe have a rigid cube shape, especially considering the existence of cubatoms.

 

[Viridis00]

The theory is that, since AMCs barely do any damage unless they are larger, the starmade universe is antimatter.

However, they're being renamed to just "cannons" so that theory is junk.

I think a much more likely possibility is that atoms in this universe have a rigid cube shape, especially considering the existence of cubatoms.

Let's just assume for a minute the anti-matter thing was true...

it would be incredibly redundant. It makes no sense in the first place. I'm glad they're being renamed.

 

[Calbiri]

mis·sile
ˈmisəl/
noun

1. an object that is forcibly propelled at a target, either by hand or from a mechanical weapon.
   • a weapon that is self-propelled or directed by remote control, carrying a conventional or nuclear explosive.

Now, why do we need a special SciFi name for this? Wouldn't you prefer I left these systems with vague names so that as you construct weapons in your ship to your own specifications, you may name said system anything you like? The same logic applies to the other weapons as well, I know its still called an AMC in game, but I've been calling it a Cannon for some time now.

 

[Aecetym]

Also it seems kind of odd that a ship using energy shields and anti-matter cannons still uses chemical propelled missiles.

Not checical but ion or anti-matter propelled would be more likely. And with those it still wouldn't be plasma missiles.