A possible solution to the very mild "chair problem".

[Websterandy42]

Two ideas that have been suggested so far:

1. Chairs, beds, and the like, should be made out of existing blocks at the cost of there usability.
   
2. Chairs, beds, and the like, should have their own models, possibly at the expense of other more functional blocks.

My idea:

Have them made out of already existing blocks, but have a menu in build mode that allows you to change the method in which characters can interact with them.

Example:

• Place a block or wedge down that has its top face fully exposed.
  
• Go into build mode
• Set the object's user interactivity to "Sit on when activated"
• Now, clicking on this block locks you on top of it in a seated position until the (leave ship) button is pressed.

 

[Ithirahad]

Not a bad idea, actually.

 

[Takunuva7427]

Unfortunately, this would force all blocks to have an additional variable-exponentially using memory up. This idea could still be possible if there were only a few (new) interactive blocks, which would have the aforementioned variables. The interactive block(s) could then change texture to suit their environment (configurable w/ build mode)

 

[Sven_The_Slayer]

I would much rather have modeled chairs and beds than the ability to sit on wedges.

 

[Blodge]

I also think Chairs and Beds should have their own model. If you want to customise them, then you can always place a coupla wedges around them to make them look more like a sofa or Captain's chair etc.

 

[der_scheme]

I support this idea.

Unfortunately, this would force all blocks to have an additional variable-exponentially using memory up.

No. This would be part of logic data (groups and connections), not block data.

 

[ltmauve]

I also think Chairs and Beds should have their own model. If you want to customise them, then you can always place a coupla wedges around them to make them look more like a sofa or Captain's chair etc.

The thing about starmade is that you get to design your own chair. It would be possible to use an invisible block (but visible in build mode) to set chair/stasis pod/whatever locations.

 

[rece ktore leczo]

Chairs made from wedges don't look cool. I want specific blocks for chairs, screens and other decorative/functional blocks. It would be best if these blocks wouldn't be typical cubes, but rather vary in sizes.

I don't know if it's possible, because so far every existing block is 1x1x1 but maybe with some magic casted by Schema the dreams would become reality

 

[ltmauve]

Here's the thing: I like making my own chairs. It's part of the creativity of making ships. Standardizing chairs would inhibit creativity, since you would have to design your chair around the chair model.

 

[Sven_The_Slayer]

Here's the thing: I like making my own chairs. It's part of the creativity of making ships. Standardizing chairs would inhibit creativity, since you would have to design your chair around the chair model.

This would not inhibit creativity because there is nothing stopping you from making chairs but the people who want a pre fab option would have it. I would probably still make some of my own chairs too like for the captain but just a wedge for additional computer stations suck and I don't want to waste a ton of room and that makes no sense because real chairs are not multiple meters in every dimension.

 

[Websterandy42]

To me it depends mostly on what schema says the limits are. If we get to a point of choosing between adding a startrek style teleportation block and a chair block, I would rather sit on a wedge.

 

[Ithirahad]

The thing about starmade is that you get to design your own chair. It would be possible to use an invisible block (but visible in build mode) to set chair/stasis pod/whatever locations.

This, IMO, would be the "cheapest" good solution, actually. It means that chairs are customizable, no new models need to be added, and there are no extra performance-eating variables that need to be added either. However, IMO there should certainly be modeled screens, about the size of Minecraft wall signs. They should have twelve orienations, if possible - forward, backward, left, right, diagonal-up-forward, diagonal-up-back, diagonal-up-left, and diagonal-up-right, and diagonal-down-forward, backward, etc.; straight up and down are unnecessary, IMO. We could have placeable logbooks that face sraight up if we wanted, however.

 

[Crimson-Artist]

a while ago i had the idea that chairs should be an invisible block that can only be seen in build mode. now in the dev builds we have the proximity blocks which have an invisible activation block that only shows up in build mode. using this system its possible to make custom chairs while still enabling players to sit in them.

 

[Websterandy42]

This, IMO, would be the "cheapest" good solution, actually. It means that chairs are customizable, no new models need to be added, and there are no extra performance-eating variables that need to be added either. However, IMO there should certainly be modeled screens, about the size of Minecraft wall signs. They should have twelve orienations, if possible - forward, backward, left, right, diagonal-up-forward, diagonal-up-back, diagonal-up-left, and diagonal-up-right, and diagonal-down-forward, backward, etc.; straight up and down are unnecessary, IMO. We could have placeable logbooks that face sraight up if we wanted, however.

Except we know that it is impossible for two blocks to take up the same space. The engine just cant do that.

 

[Ithirahad]

Except we know that it is impossible for two blocks to take up the same space. The engine just cant do that.

...It wouldnt require that. The way I see it, the character would sit inside the "chair block," on top of its bottom face.

 

[Yaodin]

Also it might be possible (albeit kind of sloppy) to have the chair occupy one block as far as physics are concerned but graphically draw over the surrounding ones. If it's possible it could be put on a back layer so adjacent blocks clip over the graphics.

 

[rece ktore leczo]

Except we know that it is impossible for two blocks to take up the same space. The engine just cant do that.

Once i tried to make an interplanetary bridge between two planets (in adjacent sectors) and it resulted in two different blocks exactly in the same space. Just some oddity.



Yeah, i know these blocks were on different entities.

 

[Yaodin]

Once i tried to make an interplanetary bridge between two planets (in adjacent sectors) and it resulted in two different blocks exactly in the same space. Just some oddity.



Yeah, i know these blocks were on different entities.

Same thing happens all the time with turrets.

 

[Ithirahad]

Also it might be possible (albeit kind of sloppy) to have the chair occupy one block as far as physics are concerned but graphically draw over the surrounding ones. If it's possible it could be put on a back layer so adjacent blocks clip over the graphics.

Not going to work in a block array, I don't think.

 

[Iskandar]

Same thing happens all the time with turrets.

And NPCs too (who also make great stepladders! ^_^)