Recognized use prefixes

[HolyCookie]

i'd like to suggest to use the prefixes for real, and not rarely
if something is being suggested, it has either a prefix of:
blanko, hastn't been looked at
recognizes, says it all
brainstorm this, says it all
or rejected, only 80% of the suggestions is left blanko
that means they all haven't been looked at
but i know most of them are just rejected.
please, use the prefix rejected when a suggestion is rejected
and if people dont see the problem (so when everyone agrees or there is no discussion about advataches and disatvatages) please add a post to why it is rejected. e.g. this would make the game too complicated for new players.

it feels better when you know why something isn't added, instead of a suggestion being completely ignored after all, we didn't get councilors for nothing
thanks

 

[Megacrafter127]

recognizes, says it all

The definition of when the recognized prefix is applied was made before the council was officially planned, and was not officially changed since then.
As such, recognized _should_ still refer to Schine having recognized a suggestion. The council is not a part of Schine, so unless the definition of when recognized is supposed to be set as prefix is changed, there is no prefix indicating the council is aware of a suggestion but didn'T come to a conclusion yet, or is still waiting for a response(or acknowledgement) from Schine.
A much easier way would be simply adding new prefixes like 'recognized by council' or 'approved by council', and have the old tags keep their use, unless there is a restriction on how many prefixes there can be, which I doubt is reached yet, if it even exists.
In any case, I (personally) will not apply a prefix, if there is the possibility, that it shouldn't be applied in that situation(due to an outdated or unclear definition). I will not speak for the other councillors in that regard.

 

[HolyCookie]

The definition of when the recognized prefix is applied was made before the council was officially planned, and was not officially changed since then.
As such, recognized _should_ still refer to Schine having recognized a suggestion. The council is not a part of Schine, so unless the definition of when recognized is supposed to be set as prefix is changed, there is no prefix indicating the council is aware of a suggestion but didn'T come to a conclusion yet, or is still waiting for a response(or acknowledgement) from Schine.
A much easier way would be simply adding new prefixes like 'recognized by council' or 'approved by council', and have the old tags keep their use, unless there is a restriction on how many prefixes there can be, which I doubt is reached yet, if it even exists.
In any case, I (personally) will not apply a prefix, if there is the possibility, that it shouldn't be applied in that situation(due to an outdated or unclear definition). I will not speak for the other councillors in that regard.

i thought recognized is for the suggestions schema understands
in a way like, yea you have a point there, maybe we should do this.
otherwise recognized is as useless as blanko because you still don't know anything
i understand that you don't rate suggestions, ofcourse you don't know what schema and the community wants, or do you have superpowers?

 

[CyberTao]

i understand that you don't rate suggestions, ofcourse you don't know what schema and the community wants, or do you have superpowers?

Part of the Council's job is the rely info back and forth. They know a bit more than we do about Schema's plans, and are allowed to add tags to suggestions based on that. The reason they probably don't is because they dont want to appear pretentious or stifle conversations.

 

[Bench]

Added three new prefixes

 

[HolyCookie]

Added three new prefixes

thanks i can see that, very happy with it :D

 

[HolyCookie]

I think no one would disagree with me for remembering everyone to this thread.

it would be really nice to have an explanation or reaction to the suggestions if a thread is prefixed with "read by ...." then I think there should be a comment in the thread from the one that read the thread, sharing his/her opinion supported by facts and/or examples.

 

[Megacrafter127]

it would be really nice to have an explanation or reaction to the suggestions if a thread is prefixed with "read by ...."

"Read by Council" means the suggestion was read by at least one councillor.
"Read by Schine" means the suggestion was read by at least one Schine member. Overrides"Read by Council".

As for a response to a post if such a prefix is applied: The "Read by..." prefixes would be reduntant, as one can tell who has read the post by who has responded. In addition, sometimes there is no good non-empty response. (e.g. If the answer to a question is unknown, the "Read by..." prefix indicates, the question has been looked at, but the lack of a response means, the question can't be answered, at least at this point in time) As for replying with one's own opinion, there still is the possibility of the lack of an opinion on the suggestion, alongside the problem, of the councillors opinion being not the same as the rest of the council. Discussions amongst councillors sometimes take days, so, even if the prefix is rightfully applied, a response may not exist (yet).

 

[Bench]

Most of the time I'll skim through the suggestions forum and skim through a lot of the new ones. If I actually stop and fully read the OP and some of the comments after, then i'll change the prefix to Read by Schine. If I'm skimming through and I don't pop one on it's sort of like a reminder for me to come back.

The Read by ones are really there to show an awareness. We may not have formed an opinion quite yet or we may be waiting for something else in another meeting or in the game etc to happen first before coming back to it again.

So yeah it's merely showing which particular team is aware of it.

 

[HolyCookie]

aaaaaaaah thanks Bench and Megacrafter127
if i get it right, they are just for the team(s) not for the community, that helps a lot.
what about the last few suggestions that end up dead and without a prefix, is that for repetition/rejected on sight?
might be an idea to make some sort of sorting thing looking at content and then makes a separate list for the team(s) 1 list without repetition (less likely to be important) and 1 list without recognized repetition. the list would be made looking at content of the thread, say the title contains shields, it goes in repetition.

or is this too much work to make, making it useless. i feel like i suggested something on which the answer is too much work.

 

[Megacrafter127]

is that for repetition/rejected on sight?

If the suggestion is a repetition, then it may not be prefixed, and a post referring to the first thread mentioning it will be left.
Otherwise, the lack of a prefix has no meaning.
I personally don't set the 'Read by Council' prefix on threads, if I want another councillor to have a look at it without being biased by me referring them to the thread. If this doesn't happen for multiple days, while also nobody else[except for the OP] posts on that thread, it generally means, that interest in that suggestion is low. If that happens, I still won't apply a prefix, so that this suggestion can be quickly scooped up once it is relevant again.( filter for all threads with no prefix )