Allow players to leave #general

    Erth Paradine

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    Request:
    Allow players to leave the #general chat channel, or at least admins.

    Rationale:
    Currently, players can "close" the channel, but that does not eliminate noise in their chat channel window, which is of particular concern for those that are logged into multiple channels.

    As an admin, I'll often login but just idle on the server, watching for any excessive lag spikes, abuse around spawn, or just being ready to help at request (via PMs and a dedicated help channel).

    The ignore function is not very useful for cleaning up this, as it requires manually ignoring each and every logged-in pilot upon every relog.

    Manual ignores further requires other pilots to act, before they're able to ignore a narcissistic player, and/or waiting for an admin to mute. These various responses accumulate into what's essentially a waste of everyone's time - in particular for those that track multiple channels.

    Players can close the #general chat channel, but #general messages still popup in red text (in older versions). The popups were distracting, and unnecessary. In current versions, #general chatter still pollutes a player's chat window, especially when multiple #general participants start feeling compelled to leak internal dialogs through their fingers...

    Further, it becomes increasingly difficult to actually catch PMs, or messages in multiple other monitored chat channels, as a constant stream of noise from #general has the tendency to simply drown-out messages from channels that a player is actually interested in tracking.

    Here's a copy/paste from today's chat logs (these are all posted by the same player).

    2016/05/09 - 18:35:30 [XXXXX]: ima make a car
    2016/05/09 - 18:35:51 [XXXXX]: is it even possible?
    2016/05/09 - 18:36:27 [XXXXX]: hmm ima try to drive on planets
    2016/05/09 - 18:36:39 [XXXXX]: rotating wheels and stuff
    2016/05/09 - 18:37:09 [XXXXX]: like a skid racer?
    2016/05/09 - 18:43:13 [XXXXX]: small stuff sucks
    2016/05/09 - 18:43:30 [XXXXX]: ah this lag
    2016/05/09 - 18:43:47 [XXXXX]: im using laptops
    2016/05/09 - 18:44:02 [XXXXX]: :/
    2016/05/09 - 18:44:05 [XXXXX]: its not that bad
    2016/05/09 - 18:45:25 [XXXXX]: i use normal laptop :z
    2016/05/09 - 18:45:52 [XXXXX]: 30fps is fine for me.. i lag too much anyway so more fps doesnt make the difference
    2016/05/09 - 18:45:58 [XXXXX]: internet lag*
    2016/05/09 - 18:46:25 [XXXXX]: umm why are there so many planets here
    2016/05/09 - 18:46:35 [XXXXX]: in my sector...
    2016/05/09 - 18:46:39 [XXXXX]: system*
    2016/05/09 - 18:46:42 [XXXXX]: wait whay
    2016/05/09 - 18:46:49 [XXXXX]: someone look at my system on map
    2016/05/09 - 18:46:58 [XXXXX]: its next to spawn.. i see like 15 planets in it
    2016/05/09 - 18:47:15 [XXXXX]: not even in orbit lines :z
    2016/05/09 - 18:47:31 [XXXXX]: uhh someone blew upa planet?
    2016/05/09 - 18:47:43 [XXXXX]: hmmm ok maybe leme go see. idk a thing about anythin
    2016/05/09 - 18:47:51 [XXXXX]: actually ye it probably is. all green
    2016/05/09 - 18:48:29 [XXXXX]: id mine em but i need a planet to make a car on
    2016/05/09 - 18:48:55 [XXXXX]: ?
    2016/05/09 - 18:53:00 [XXXXX]: hm im lagging tons ffor some reason..
    2016/05/09 - 18:54:08 [XXXXX]: this planet aint loading..
    2016/05/09 - 18:54:49 [XXXXX]: ahh my ping :(
    2016/05/09 - 18:56:04 [XXXXX]: on tab it says my ping is 20k :z
    2016/05/09 - 19:02:51 [XXXXX]: wth
    2016/05/09 - 19:03:01 [XXXXX]: why is my internet suddenly so bad
    2016/05/09 - 19:04:05 [XXXXX]: omg my ship is not helping... its rolling around the planet in 5 seconds for each rol over the entire planet
    2016/05/09 - 19:05:32 [XXXXX]: NOOOO
    2016/05/09 - 19:05:48 [XXXXX]: WHYYYYY
    2016/05/09 - 19:05:57 [XXXXX]: 31754 intensity sun....
    2016/05/09 - 19:06:09 [XXXXX]: ugh i hate ppl who use up my home internet... this happens
    2016/05/09 - 19:06:27 [XXXXX]: what happened to my ship..
    2016/05/09 - 19:06:42 [XXXXX]: its my stupid home internet
    2016/05/09 - 19:07:08 [XXXXX]: wifi but i shouldnt go to 20k ping just as i go to a planet
    2016/05/09 - 19:07:26 [XXXXX]: autodampeneers also broke..
    2016/05/09 - 19:07:55 [XXXXX]: i landed on a planet
    2016/05/09 - 19:08:02 [XXXXX]: how the heck did i get shot intoa sun
    2016/05/09 - 19:08:13 [XXXXX]: and lose my ship... AGAIN:/
    2016/05/09 - 19:08:27 [XXXXX]: i seriously dont get that tho...
    2016/05/09 - 19:08:53 [XXXXX]: i got sent like 40 sectors away in 5 seconds...
    2016/05/09 - 19:08:59 [XXXXX]: and through a sun which killed me..
    2016/05/09 - 19:09:07 [XXXXX]: ok maybe not 40.. maybe 10 :/
    2016/05/09 - 19:09:40 [XXXXX]: i didnt jump..
    2016/05/09 - 19:09:56 [XXXXX]: i landed on a planet exxited my ship and then i lagged so much and ended up through a sun without dying
    2016/05/09 - 19:10:00 [XXXXX]: even tho my ship overheated.
    2016/05/09 - 19:10:32 [XXXXX]: sucks.. i lost my resources to make my car now :z
    2016/05/09 - 19:10:58 [XXXXX]: in the process my mouse sensitivity went super high
    2016/05/09 - 19:11:15 [XXXXX]: maybe its cause my ship is destroyed :/
    2016/05/09 - 19:11:32 [XXXXX]: idk where i am.. i travelede exactly 42km
    2016/05/09 - 19:11:40 [XXXXX]: what... the sun isnt even in the path that i traveled..
    2016/05/09 - 19:11:54 [XXXXX]: how the... did i get 30k sun intensity damage.....
    2016/05/09 - 19:11:59 [XXXXX]: the sun is leme get it
    2016/05/09 - 19:12:01 [XXXXX]: wait no
    2016/05/09 - 19:12:23 [XXXXX]: sun is 6 sectors away from the planet
    2016/05/09 - 19:12:47 [XXXXX]: im 10 sectors away from planet... somehow i think the planets gravity shot me all the way through a sun that fast...
    2016/05/09 - 19:12:59 [XXXXX]: makes no sense :(
    2016/05/09 - 19:13:28 [XXXXX]: all i know is the sun at 30000 intensity only destroyed half of my ship and made it overheat...
    2016/05/09 - 19:13:48 [XXXXX]: what this really makes no sense
    2016/05/09 - 19:13:59 [XXXXX]: ok so the half that is destroyed... the docking module is in the center and survived..
    2016/05/09 - 19:14:07 [XXXXX]: the rail docker*
    2016/05/09 - 19:14:30 [XXXXX]: same goes for faction block
    2016/05/09 - 19:14:34 [XXXXX]: ill jump to spawn
    2016/05/09 - 19:15:21 [XXXXX]: why is my fps so low...
    2016/05/09 - 19:15:37 [XXXXX]: dont tell me i melted my computer already.... i only got it a month ago..
    2016/05/09 - 19:16:49 [XXXXX]: im at spawn
    2016/05/09 - 19:17:14 [XXXXX]: someone care to explain how the blocks in the center of the damaged area survived?
    2016/05/09 - 19:17:56 [XXXXX]: rail docker and faction block..
    2016/05/09 - 19:19:13 [XXXXX]: my mouse sensiitivity is going ultra high..
    2016/05/09 - 19:20:00 [XXXXX]: i cant see anything atm... cant move the camera properly..
    2016/05/09 - 19:20:12 [XXXXX]: everything also looks zoomed in.
    2016/05/09 - 19:20:23 [XXXXX]: i saw erth
    2016/05/09 - 19:21:09 [XXXXX]: im still trying to understand what caused the lag and what casued the attack by the sun and what protectedd 2 blocks..
    2016/05/09 - 19:21:38 [XXXXX]: wait how did the back of my ship get damaged too?
    2016/05/09 - 19:22:03 [XXXXX]: sun should damage stuff evenly tho or atleast in 1 secton... not miss out the entire middle :?
    2016/05/09 - 19:24:13 [XXXXX]: if anyone works out what caused whatever just happened plz say
    2016/05/09 - 19:28:36 [XXXXX]: oh well screw my car project then.. turns out gravity doesnt want me to make a car...
    2016/05/09 - 19:28:55 [XXXXX]: i still dont understand the reason for my mouse sensitivity for being this high....
    2016/05/09 - 19:29:29 [XXXXX]: im sure 0.5 isnt high...
    2016/05/09 - 19:29:55 [XXXXX]: not unlesss my game somehow changed it
    2016/05/09 - 19:30:17 [XXXXX]: ah its high in windowws too...
    2016/05/09 - 19:30:50 [XXXXX]: my mouse is never like this
    2016/05/09 - 19:31:02 [XXXXX]: i think starmade broke my mouse :(
    2016/05/09 - 19:31:38 [XXXXX]: the way it moves the mouse is if it gets close to the edge it moves it back to the center.... i was spinning so fast i think my mouse must have done that a ridiculous amount of times breaking it... :(
    2016/05/09 - 19:32:18 [XXXXX]: (the rolling around planet messed it up i think..)
    2016/05/09 - 19:33:09 [XXXXX]: ye i will... idk what to do with this ship... ill leave it at spawn docked with the docking module that survived for observation incase anyonee can figure out what happened (i already rebooted it so i could fly it back)

    EDIT: updated to adjust for current version's behavior.
     
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    therimmer96

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    you're an admin, part of your job is to watch general for abuse and spam. Personally, I would have considered that spam and told him to shut up.
     
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    Is he talking to himself ? I don't think he would make so many messages, to show his current emotion.. He surely was talking to someone else.

    Or he does have an imaginary friend.
     

    Erth Paradine

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    Is he talking to himself ? I don't think he would make so many messages, to show his current emotion.. He surely was talking to someone else.

    Or he does have an imaginary friend.
    Himself ...maybe in-part also responding to PMs via #general, because of the awkward chat interface.

    We have multiple players that do this. Some are worse than others.

    Sometimes I do wonder if it's a script of some sort - it's the oddest thing...
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    you're an admin, part of your job is to watch general for abuse and spam. Personally, I would have considered that spam and told him to shut up.
    Yea, yea...I understand that... Although some of these players are quite talented - what they're doing appears to be a compulsion. We're certainly not trying to accommodate the spammer or otherwise abusive player, and many do in-fact respond to requests to quiet-down. Other players simply are not interested in seeing any #general chatter, excessive or not.

    Kind of like a nutter that stands on the street corner...except we can walk away from them, right?

    What harm could come, from granting pilots an ability to simply walk away from (e.g. leave) #general.