Planned Better weapon effects.

[Crusade]

Specifically, beams. Currently we have a bilboard, flat image. We need 3d beams. I mean, they just look better.
Have a proof of concept, in-game.

 

[jayman38]

A translucently-textured low-poly cylinder should do the trick, but if we can't do that, 3 or 4 rotated rectangles should simulate the effect well enough (better than a single rectangle that we have now).

By rotated rectangles, I'm referring to the way that paint cans and light sticks are rendered as 2 rectangles, rotated at 90 degrees to each other, to create an X-pattern pseudo-3D representation of an object.

I think the X-pattern is a throw-back to the way Minecraft would "render" 3D effects like grass. A 3D cylinder would be better for lights, cans, and beams. There is probably already a dynamic 3D cylinder available to the game: reuse thruster plumes with a different texture.

 

[Crusade]

Well as you can see, I have managed to get them in-game. It's a custom mesh replacing the simplebeam model.

Without reshade:

 

[Cirdanoth]

I need this.

 

[HolyCookie]

I mean how could anyone say no to this?

 

[BJammin]

Can we get this in the next update, or something? This is a feature I (and obviously several others) would absolutely love to see in the near future (and since Crusade's already got a working version, I imagine implementation by Schine shouldn't be a difficult task...)

 

[kiddan]

We need this so bad and have needed it so long! Heck, it could probably be Bloom Effect-compatible.

 

[Gamel]

I think it is time to summon the texture kupu

 

[kupu]

I imagine implementation by Schine shouldn't be a difficult task...)

No, it wouldn't be difficult.

We need this so bad and have needed it so long!

True.

I think it is time to summon the texture kupu

*poof*

I mean how could anyone say no to this?

Uh oh...
Well, nobody could say no to objectively better weapon effects. So why didn't we just do this ourselves last week, or a year ago... or do it tomorrow?

We're almost stuck in a limbo. We've been planning to implement particles and newer weapon effects that require new code that would render such improvements redundant. It's always a tricky call as a small team to balance not only work vs yield, but knowing whether the small improvements would need rewriting in the future and be rendered a waste of resources.

I'll bring this up with the team. Perhaps it's time to reevaluate such short term improvements.

 

[Lecic]

I just think it's unfair to post these screenshots with Reshade one. They should be made with vanilla shaders, as to not mislead people into how sick these beams would be.

I definitely want them, but have more truthful advertising in your OP, Crus. :P

 

[Ithirahad]

I just think it's unfair to post these screenshots with Reshade one. They should be made with vanilla shaders, as to not mislead people into how sick these beams would be.

I definitely want them, but have more truthful advertising in your OP, Crus. :p

Yeh; that's what I've been saying constantly. Especially seeing as the reshade-less beams look freakin' badass anyway.

 

[kiraen]

It looks really nice, but

short term improvements

are a waste of time in my book since

that would render such improvements redundant.

Anyway, since

It's a custom mesh replacing the simplebeam model

this sounds like a basic and easy change. It should probably be uploaded to the mod forum.

 

[Ithirahad]

this sounds like a basic and easy change. It should probably be uploaded to the mod forum.

There are bugs with it, though, that could only be fixed by Schema. Which would be a great opportunity to make the vanilla beams look better. Which would be a good thing to do right about now.

 

[kupu]

There are bugs with it, though, that could only be fixed by Schema. Which would be a great opportunity to make the vanilla beams look better. Which would be a good thing to do right about now.

I think i agree. Let's be very real here, we've been promising particles for a long time.

The particle system was shown close to two years ago. I won't bore anyone with excuses or reasons because i doubt players particularly care about the myriad of complications during development. Bottom line is they are not here.

After a quick chat with the team we agreed that the benefit of such a short term improvement in this area would far outweigh the workload required for this particular task. We will try and come up with a more effective place holder. It seems the community at large have always requested two things: Larger and bolder.

Small disclaimer, nothing more than a alteration of assets will happen here. Don't expect scaling beam systems or additional features.

 

[nightrune]

I think i agree. Let's be very real here, we've been promising particles for a long time.

The particle system was shown close to two years ago. I won't bore anyone with excuses or reasons because i doubt players particularly care about the myriad of complications during development. Bottom line is they are not here.

After a quick chat with the team we agreed that the benefit of such a short term improvement in this area would far outweigh the workload required for this particular task. We will try and come up with a more effective place holder. It seems the community at large have always requested two things: Larger and bolder.

Small disclaimer, nothing more than a alteration of assets will happen here. Don't expect scaling beam systems or additional features.

Thanks for the very real answer here!

 

[Ithirahad]

I think i agree. Let's be very real here, we've been promising particles for a long time.

The particle system was shown close to two years ago. I won't bore anyone with excuses or reasons because i doubt players particularly care about the myriad of complications during development. Bottom line is they are not here.

After a quick chat with the team we agreed that the benefit of such a short term improvement in this area would far outweigh the workload required for this particular task. We will try and come up with a more effective place holder. It seems the community at large have always requested two things: Larger and bolder.

Small disclaimer, nothing more than a alteration of assets will happen here. Don't expect scaling beam systems or additional features.

Wooo! It's about time.

 

[PLIX]

No, it wouldn't be difficult.



True.



*poof*



Uh oh...
Well, nobody could say no to objectively better weapon effects. So why didn't we just do this ourselves last week, or a year ago... or do it tomorrow?

We're almost stuck in a limbo. We've been planning to implement particles and newer weapon effects that require new code that would render such improvements redundant. It's always a tricky call as a small team to balance not only work vs yield, but knowing whether the small improvements would need rewriting in the future and be rendered a waste of resources.

I'll bring this up with the team. Perhaps it's time to reevaluate such short term improvements.

i thought you were a large team to have made such a big and awesome game which is capital ship friendly