How do you balance a cheater? With a ban hammer.

Tsnonak said:

Of course I would not expect any "elite-meta-exploiting-pvper" to understand any of this, but it is quite simple...

1. It is a "Fair-Play" server, we would like to at least see a bare minimum-standard of "sportsmanship" on the server, which as it seems, people who build "crap" like this, have no regard for and are simply not wanted on the server.
2. Considering the current un-optimised-buggy-exploitable-state of SM, "crap" like this is simply not wanted on the server.
3. In reality; actual players that actually play on MP-servers seem to have no interest in "crap" like this, people that use "crap" like this seem to be the actual "minority", and are simply not wanted on the server.

"meta-crap" is the perfect terminology, it basically covers it all in two words, very clearly...
The rule is there to amuse people like you(you know who you are), the rest don't gaf about it.

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1. so you're not allowed any creative freedom, gotcha
2. it's just a bunch of turrets on a vertical ship, it's not a new idea, it's not that hard to counter
3. everyone wants to win, not everyone wants to fly vertical ships because they are difficult to get o look nice most of the time

also holy fuck you're one toxic person
Seriously fuck off with your "elite-meta-exploiting-pvper" bullshit
it's extremely toxic behaviour and it should not be a thing, I get you get pissed that you always lose but maybe you should try and git gut at systems and understanding how the game works

The last 9 or so posts have not contributed to the discussion, let's get back on topic folks.

Obviously there are conflicting opinions here. Feel free to state yours, and feel free to challenge other's points of view.

But, we're getting personal now, and that's not constructive for any of us.

Thanks

Dr. Whammy said:

Clipping and weaponized lag are definitely lame but I have nothing against docked armor; provided it doesn't contribute noticeably to lag.

As for that XBB; from what I've learned, it seems more like skillful use of logic than an actual exploit. Is it really an exploit? Meaning; is it bugged or does it break the rules of the game, beyond other players simply not knowing how to build/counter it? If so, how?

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I consider it an un-intentional function or feature, akin to the chain drives and docked reactors of old days, which I sorely miss sometimes because they showed just how intuitive and creative the community was without directly impacting weapon performance.

Thadius Faran said:

I consider it an un-intentional function or feature, akin to the chain drives and docked reactors of old days, which I sorely miss sometimes because they showed just how intuitive and creative the community was without directly impacting weapon performance.

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welp time to ban you off CBS. Cant have creativity or ingenuity!

Duke seriously, you see where the "toxic" generally comes from now though right? It's got nothing to do with how people build their ships or what configuration a bunch of blocks are in, and everything to do with how people interact and attempt to control others actions in a game that technically allows a huge deal of freedom. "Technically", until someone decides they dont like how some blocks are aligned, no official servers so its really down to an admins maturity how they address it.

Wasn't it groov or one of your other mods who complained that they felt they needed a psych degree to properly moderate here? wonder why.
nothing to really "omg do something about it now" but something to honestly keep in mind